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Comments on news posted 2008-04-11 14:24:12: "Time Warner Cable and AT&T argue that the money needed to upgrade their networks for higher speeds can be better utilized on other projects," proclaims the Wall Street Journal in a piece entitled "Is Faster Access To The Internet Needed?" While Comc.. ..

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danza
Premium
join:2002-08-23

"56 kilobytes-a-second speeds on dial-up services"

I wish we had 56KB/s connection back in 1996. Seriously, it's it that hard to distinguish between bits and bytes? it's 2008...

WSJ shouldn't even be saying anything because it's apparent how clueless they are about computers.

anontruth

@bellsouth.net

Why would you want to invest here?

Think of it this way ... most of the U.S can't afford the homes they're living in. Why would I want to invest in bringing faster internet ? The U.S. is becoming a third world nation. When dollar hits rock bottom 4$ to the Euro and OPEC moves away from trading in dollars, gas runs then at $10/gal. OPEC unlike the past won't care about our economy cause they still get great demand from Asia. Most of us will be scrambling in the fields for food and won't have a minute of time to be on the internet -- not that we would be able to afford either.

Moderator -- will delete this I'm sure but won't change what the honest truth that most us just won't face up to.

Scree
In the pipe 5 by 5

join:2001-04-24
Mount Laurel, NJ

makes sense

Makes sense, since those are the 2 companies that need to save money the most. lol (AT&T: What's a telephone? - TW: Took a bath with aol. -haha)

maartena
Elmo
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
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Upload. Again.

Give everyone a 10 Mbps downstream, 5 Mbps upstream connection and you will have plenty of bandwidth for at least the next 5 years, maybe even 10.

All new technologies emerging now require upload. The Internet is becoming a huge mish-mash of people, all wanting to serve something from their homes, from gameservers to photo albums, from their garageband MP3 downloads to video conferencing....

512 kbit/s upload is not cutting it anymore in todays market.

Instead of focusing on 50 Mbps downstream, they should focus on at least TRIPLING current upstreams.
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"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father.

SDKiwi
VIP
join:2002-05-27
El Cajon, CA
kudos:2

Re: Upload. Again.

said by maartena:

Give everyone a 10 Mbps downstream, 5 Mbps upstream connection and you will have plenty of bandwidth for at least the next 5 years, maybe even 10.

All new technologies emerging now require upload. The Internet is becoming a huge mish-mash of people, all wanting to serve something from their homes, from gameservers to photo albums, from their garageband MP3 downloads to video conferencing....

512 kbit/s upload is not cutting it anymore in todays market.

Instead of focusing on 50 Mbps downstream, they should focus on at least TRIPLING current upstreams.
I think there is quite a bit of truth to this. While some marketing people focus on peak speeds with DOCSIS 3, there is some real value coming with that technology to produce a more consistent and faster DOCSIS experience (even to current 2.0 modems) at speeds of 10 to 30 Mbps downstream and at least 4 times the current upstream.

annonomous

@comcast.net

Where I live in Georgia,

my Internet usually stays at a Good 15Mbps-30Mbps down and 2.5Mbps up with speeds of 9Mbps down and 1Mbps up at it's absolute slowest !

Jwobot

join:2002-08-14
Sterling Heights, MI

Sending

ISP's need higher Upload speed!

jonthejackass

@comcast.net

I'd love upload

i'd pay more for a 15 Mbps down / 15 Mbps up connection instead of some stupid 50 Mbps down 2 Mbps up connection...

you can't contribute anything to the internet with that...

isn't that what the internet is for?

American ISP's have it all wrong...
disc

join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC

these are not the droids you are looking for...

Very fitting allusion Karl

If only there was something better than this forum to tell them, "your jedi mind tricks will not work on me"
Jaghar

join:2001-01-30
Painesville, OH

It's About The Money

This has nothing to do with whether we are satisfied with our broadband speed or even whether we have all the speed we need.

It has everything to do with large corporations wanting to focus on something that will give them more profit.
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We will always be much more human than we wish to be.

Froggy

@teksavvy.com

Ontario Canada is capped at 30 kilobytes per second!

That's downstream and upstream so if you call that fast enough i wouldn't even call that broadband at all.
TMny

join:2008-03-15
Sayville, NY

bandwidth concerns...

I see two issues:
I) So much downstream bandwidth consumed by advertisements that i'm not interested in. Vast sectors of our print libraries are dedicated to preserving advertisements that will not be acted upon any longer. Is this an apt model?
II)The need for a minority to upload hastily without overloading local network capacity, and the difficulty of the ISP to identify/charge-for that bandwidth service.
-T m
Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Re: bandwidth concerns...

There are several ways to defeat the advertisements. I use FF and adblocker plus. I think the newer versions of IE have something similar. Very little bandwidth is wasted with advertisements when you use these options.

The isps were just being short sighted. IF they had reinvested a reasonable amount of the vast profits they have had in the last ten years back into their systems, there would be no issue. Lots of other countries have symmetrical 20/20 (or better) for sub $45 a month( my 5/512 is $60/month) . Metro to metro our population densities are similar, so that is not an issue. Our government gave subsidies and tax incentives for the promise that they would improve infrastructure, so that is not an issue. So why are our connections so slow and so expensive?

Mr Anonymous

@comcast.net

I completely agree with this.


They need to spend there money PROVIDING BROADBAND TO THEIR CUSTOMERS WHO DO NOT HAVE IT AVAILABLE.

I would say their speed is satisfactory right now. What is it, 6MB connections? 12MB?

What about people still on dialup because AT&T won't pull their head out of their ass and provide broadband to 100% of their customer base?

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