en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| Didn't think it would last...
$12/month is a bit pricey, and you're still at the mercy of your own ISP throttling/traffic shaping.
All this provides is a tunnel to another site, and still doesn't guarantee anything - not enough traffic to make a good business case for it.
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Flummoxed
Premium
join:2002-01-24
Saint Peters, MO
1 edit | Tried it for a day..
I tried this(paid) for one day and canceled not to long after. I liked the idea of it, but they would force you to use only the game servers connected to their network.
edit: Oh and they never got around to making a 64bit client, having to dual boot just to use it was a pain in the butt. |
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Mchart
Super Joe
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL
·AT&T Yahoo
·RoadRunner Cable
| Enough Said
As stated, the service didn't provide enough. I was in the beta, and -maybe- saw an improvement of 5ms to servers in Chicago from down here in San Antonio. I allready have excellent latency to most everywhere in the US. Gamerail would be cool to use if it were free, or maybe ad supported somehow. But 12 bucks a month? Naw, no thanks. When i'm allready getting 14ms to my favorite servers gamerail isn't going to help.
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QuantumX
I Know You're Here
join:2000-11-16
Thunder Bay, ON
clubs:  | reply to Flummoxed
Re: Tried it for a day..
Actually the 64-bit client was almost done beta. Conductor worked pretty good.
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Flummoxed
Premium
join:2002-01-24
Saint Peters, MO | Ah, guess I gave up and stoped watching them to soon. |
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moonfish
join:2007-09-13
Memphis, TN | too bad
I was a beta tester and I didn't see much improvement, if any, when I had Comcast. After I switched to AT&T DSL my favorite servers were pinging 100+, with Gamerail it dropped to 65 or 70. I'll miss them. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| A YMMV Product
Too bad they couldn't stay in business. I guess trying to strike up a partnership deal was a big key in staying in business because they are done now. I didn't get a chance to try the product out, but I can say that I had a few people who used the service and got their money's worth out of it. One of them is on Comcast and had horrible latency. Using this product dropped his pings from 150+ to 60-70ms.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| People hate paying twice for something should have already
Part of the reason you have broadband is for things like less latency, faster online game play.
The idea of paying even more money to get something you should already have is annoying. Only the really hardcore gamers who live and breath and die online FPS would probably consider it. If your ISP is so crappy that your online gaming experience sucked, most people would be looking for a new ISP first...
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Packeteers
Premium
join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
| DSL is Latency Solution
anyone serious about gaming, already uses a DSL based ISP instead of CableTV based ISP. that's the best solution to cutting down lag to your game servers. some people will always be screwed by their rural/suburban geography as their packets get routed from CO to CO till they finally make it to a major on ramp router. others should call and complain to their ISP to get rerouted as the routing table in your CO's switch can get neglected unless enough people complain. that may not solve Latency, but it should minimize Lag potential by reducing the number of hops your connection is subjected. |
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tekmunki
Tekmunki
Premium
join:2001-12-06
Lake City, FL
clubs:
·NuVox Communications
| Never worked...
It never worked correctly, if the server wasn't on the gamerail network- it didn't matter, and most weren't.
Also, I don't know of many PB games that were supported due to some packet issues with the gamerail service- I know I never had any COD game working properly through it with an enabled anticheat.
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | reply to Packeteers
Re: DSL is Latency Solution
My friend has DSL and his ping is much higher on servers than my cable connection. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to Packeteers
Did you just make that up? |
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ender7074
join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO
·AT&T Southeast
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Yah thats just a big pile of bs. I had a cable connection and my pings were 50-80ms better on cable that I have ever got on DSL. The DSL connection has problems staying connected and is SLOW. I'm going back to cable as soon as they lay the lines in my new subdivision. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
 ·Cox VOIP
·Skype
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to Packeteers
My pings on AT&T DSL were around 100-150ms and Cox HSI is only 50-60ms max. I was 12-15,000 ft. from the CO. The Tech told me they needed a remote DSLAM. The Cox terminal is right outside. Cox upgraded a lot after Hurricane Ivan and for Digital Phone.
DSL is only great if a 10/1 connection and less than 3,000 ft. to the CO/DSLAM. My DSL at less than 3,000 ft. to the CO in another city was about 7.5/900 instead of 6/768.
And, if the wiring sucks, it doesn't matter anyway. I found if I got a lousy Dial-up connection DSL wasn't going to be anything special.
I would say @Home was pretty good in 2000-2001.
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden |  Bah!
Seems so stupid.... The ISPs and backbone companies should work on making the internet MORE efficient for the money they ALREADY are being paid... Why should the customer need to pay $12/month to get a better service?
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| reply to ender7074
Re: DSL is Latency Solution
said by ender7074  :Yah thats just a big pile of bs. I had a cable connection and my pings were 50-80ms better on cable that I have ever got on DSL. The DSL connection has problems staying connected and is SLOW. I'm going back to cable as soon as they lay the lines in my new subdivision. Same here... Latency on DSL was horrible compared to my cable connection. Now with FIOS, it is excellent!
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TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
| Good concept, implementation = doesn't work.
Probably because the server I play on (which I also own/maintain) is not connected to GameRail. Basically any server that is not hosted by a GSP (Game Server Provider) gets shafted.
I even tried it with some of their connected servers just to see if it actually made a difference. Lo and behold, my ping was actually HIGHER through GameRail.
That being said the concept is good, but it is VERY difficult to implement properly with the way the internet works currently. It's pretty much hit-or-miss, sometimes it may help you bypass a bad router (hop) but other times the routing from your ISP to the server is pretty much as good as it can be.
What NEEDS to happen is for providers at all tiers to optimize routing and prevent oversubscribing/saturating as much as possible. Of course, in a world where everything is about money rather than quality, that's not likely to happen. |
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Packeteers
Premium
join:2005-06-18
Forest Hills, NY
| reply to Tzale
Re: DSL is Latency Solution
my comments are based on comparisons I do with other game players and their connections. there will of course be many exceptions to every rule, yet the majority of best lag game opponents seem more often to be on DSL than Cable. of course, FIOS is a whole different story altogether. |
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brianiscool
join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL | sad
They should of just add VPN routing and just have certain game ports open. I don't see a point for private locked servers. |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Silly
Why not just connect to game servers CLOSEST to you? I had a feeling this was not gonna be around for long. |
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