supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | I think fixing Health Care is a Better Deal
Congress needs to start working on things people need NOT what some people want.  |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Optimum Online
| said by supergirl  :Congress needs to start working on things people need NOT what some people want. If by fixing health care you mean creating a "universal health care" system in this country, then that isn't FIXING the problem, that is making it WORSE.
This is not a bad idea. And 384kbps might be really slow for most people, but it is good for people who can't get service out in the middle of no where... At least basic web browsing of text sites and e-mail would be able to be done.
-Tzale
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shoe1
join:2007-09-28
Colfax, CA | why
Why would someone pay to provide a free service? And at that a very large costly network. |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX
| Better yet, who will pay for the system, M2Z, give me a break. What has happened to all the city wi-fi networks? Earthlink?
All I want is all our congress persons decided to add another tax to what will probably be quite an increase after the elections.... |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | So basically...
A nationwide version of the city "free WiFi" networks, only not on the WiFi band (thus driving up costs)? Seeing how "well" most of the city "free" WiFi projects have done, I'll pass... |
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lg75
join:2003-01-31
Bronx, NY
·Optimum Online
| reply to Tzale
Re: I think fixing Health Care is a Better Deal
said by Tzale :creating a "universal health care" system in this country, then that isn't FIXING the problem, that is making it WORSE. Would you care to explain your statement? Virtually all of Europe has publicly sponsored and regulated health care that works. Why couldn't we do that here? |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | Canada's universal healthcare isnt bad either. You still have the option to have your private health care from your employer or not. Its better to pay for your own health care though in Canada that way you can get into see a doctor. |
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walliser
join:2002-01-27
Philadelphia, PA
| reply to EPS
Re: So basically...
the difference between the 5 citywide Wi-Fi networks is that this time congress is involved, and we know, where congress is involved, things get done, or something like that.  At least money will be spent on reports and comittes and study upon study... |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
 ·magicjack.com
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Re: I think fixing Health Care is a Better Deal
said by lg75 :said by Tzale :creating a "universal health care" system in this country, then that isn't FIXING the problem, that is making it WORSE. Would you care to explain your statement? Virtually all of Europe has publicly sponsored and regulated health care that works. Why couldn't we do that here? Most people use phrases designed to invoke kneejerk reactions among Americans. Like, "it's *socialism*" or "I support free markets."
What they ignore is that there's virtually nothing truly "free" about the health-care market. The number of doctors who can enter the profession is severely limited *by the profession" through it's limitation of licensing of medical schools, a requirement to being licensed as a doctor.
Some will say it's the states' medical boards that license medical schools and doctors. But, those are almost entirely made up of health care professionals. That's not necessarily bad. I wouldn't want an auto mechanic regulating health care standards. But, those standards exist for *collective* goals (public health and safety, a more predictable market which reduces the need for "caveat emptor.").
There seems to be something really perverse about society limiting a "free market" in the interest of higher standards (for those who can afford the resulting higher prices), and then telling those who can't afford it: "It's just a free market. What are you, some kind of socialist?"
Opponents to universal (socialized) health care need to focus on deregulating health care and allowing lessor professionals to practice medicine. Doing nothing while insisting they're promoting "free market choices" is absurd. It's a recipe for greater socialization.
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walliser
join:2002-01-27
Philadelphia, PA
| reply to EPS
Re: So basically...
the difference between the 5 citywide Wi-Fi networks and this is that this time congress is involved, and we know, where congress is involved, things get done, or something like that. At least money will be spent on reports and comittes and study upon study... |
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wruckman
Ruckman.net
join:2007-10-25
Northwood, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
| Thieves!
Congress and whoever is pushing this are a bunch of thieves and should be sued for stealing M2Z Networks idea. F'ing scum bags! I hope it gets knocked down, just so they can't do it. I could care less about Verizon or At&t trying to knock it down. We need to stop electing a bunch of A'holes. |
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krazymon2
join:2008-01-13
Coraopolis, PA | 384kbps will be great in 10 years
If you read the article it states that it would be within the next 10 years. Really how much of the web do you think that you will be able to enjoy at that speed in 10 years, hell even 5? |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
 ·Qwest.net
| Double Phooey!
I am surprised there hasn't been cries of racism. Here is a poor minority owned business start up, with a business plan anyone with more then one brain cell knows will not work. But they want a government handout to supposedly get this huge network going when in reality the Government money will go down a rat hole never to be seen again except in the pockets of the officers of the company paying themselves huge salaries for basically nothing. The FCC for once realized that 5% of nothing is....nothing. As for 20mhz of unused 2gHz spectrum I am not aware of any of this band that is unused.
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viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| reply to hottboiinnc
Re: I think fixing Health Care is a Better Deal
I would point out that Japan, a country often held out here as an example of how broadband *should* be, also is on the universal health care bandwagon.
I would also point out that, as a 20 yr vetran of the US Navy (retired) that, for those 20 years, I was only allowed to use the universal health care provided by the military. Why was it good enough for me and my family, and not everyone else? |
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bjbrock
join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK | reply to krazymon2
Re: 384kbps will be great in 10 years
Very few things require more speed than that to work very well. Gaming is one of the few thing that need more bandwidth to work well. E-mail and web surfing will work great at these speeds. |
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sides14
join:2007-11-29
Glendale, AZ | reply to lg75
Re: I think fixing Health Care is a Better Deal
It works so well that people come to the United States for service. |
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bjbrock
join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK | reply to shoe1
Re: why
Good question. Nothing in this world is free. It will either be paid for by advertising, at which point it becomes distasteful to me, or paid for by tax dollars. |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
| 5% of free == free
Haha, that sounds like a sweet deal. We give them 20MHz of spectrum for free, and in turn they give us 5% of the revenue of the free service they provide.
Or have I missed what it means to be free?
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
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fallenangel
join:2005-10-04
USA | reply to Tzale
Re: I think fixing Health Care is a Better Deal
Oh, I would love to read your reasons why a "universal health care" is worse than what we currently have?
Please, enlighten us. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
·Cox VOIP
·Skype
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to lg75
said by lg75 :said by Tzale :creating a "universal health care" system in this country, then that isn't FIXING the problem, that is making it WORSE. Would you care to explain your statement? Virtually all of Europe has publicly sponsored and regulated health care that works. Why couldn't we do that here? I never said Universal Health Care. Tzale, one I ignore usually, did.
I just think Congress needs to get off their collective a@@es and start dealing with REAL problems not some HSI wi-fi crap.
Why did Congress waste OUR money on steroids in baseball? Who cares? I don't. Shoot up to your hearts content MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, etc.
Health Care can be fixed by making the Blue Cross/Blue Shields of the U.S. truly non-profit. Insurance salespeople make $100,000-250,000+ a year selling it. In fact, all health care companies should be truly non-profit. Medicare spends a whopping 1% on administration. Blue Cross, and most others, spend 35-40% on administration like "how to deny a claim."
Health Care in Socialized Medicine countries are non-profit but don't work. People in Britain pull their own teeth because the can't see a dentist. Canadians come down here for a "vacation" to get care.
I say start by making them all non-profit, not allowing a denial of person in because a pre-existing condition, and, yes, make all people buy in the system. Hospitals shouldn't be for-profits either. Health Care should be a non-profit business all around. Doctors and nurses still make tons of cash but insurance companies, Hospitals, etc. shouldn't be making tons of cash. One hospital CEO made $120 million one year. That's ridiculous.
Congress could also ban small companies from buying drugs no longer with a patent then charging outrageous money for it.
I'm sure corporate America would like it since it would lower their premiums.
The simple fact is: we need to start somewhere. Congress hasn't started anywhere. But, they have no problem having ridiculous inquires about steroids in MLB. Revoke their anti-trust exemption and the NFL's. Let them compete.
And, for the we can't do anything people, isn't non-profit in the lofty oaths Doctors take?
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Saving the world keeps me busy. However, I find Earth very primitive from my home planet of Krypton.
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