Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
1 edit | Bellsouth?
Wow, that's surprising. It almost makes me question their data collection methods, especially since they were unable to create a control group.
There are a lot of variables that could come into play for the ISP's that only show up once on that list. If you look at the number of times Comcast shows up, that makes sense. But some of those ISPs that only show up one time, with 20 users surveyed and an 11% RST rate ... well, that bring their data collection and analysis methods into question. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| doesn't matter
it doesn't matter who does what - soon the internet will be just another part of our life that corporations totally own and control.
I'm sure in the near future there will be the option to pay for not having applications be interfered with.
and the beat goes on; them that can pay, gets to play. |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
| Not really. Competition can keep companies from getting away with this too much. And when they start into anti-trust behaviors there are the attourneys general. And the ACLU.
Maybe they get there, maybe they don't. I have no intention on making that easy for them. I would leave comcast myself if I had a choice...
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"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | The problem...
remains that we don't know how many of these RST packets are forged, or are legitimate. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to dnoyeB
Re: doesn't matter
said by dnoyeB  :Not really. Competition can keep companies from getting away with this too much. And when they start into anti-trust behaviors there are the attourneys general. And the ACLU. Maybe they get there, maybe they don't. I have no intention on making that easy for them. I would leave comcast myself if I had a choice... Your last sentence is telling and all too common. We won't see competition any time soon. I have a choice of 4 providers; Road Runner, North State Communication (local ILEC), Clearwire, and some EVDO flavor. The only desirable option is who I chose, North State. The rest either have terrible latency or low speeds. And I'm likely one of the lucky folks with more than 1 or 2 choices available to them. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
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said by dnoyeB :Not really. Competition can keep companies from getting away with this too much. .... what competition? I got comcast or dialup with nothing else on the near horizon. |
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA
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Re: The problem...
said by EPS :remains that we don't know how many of these RST packets are forged, or are legitimate. Ding ding. RST packets are a normal part of the BitTorrent protocol.
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DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA | reply to Matt
Re: Bellsouth?
Bellsouth = ATT = BAD |
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DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA | AOL?
How did anyone even notice the throttling there :P |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | reply to Matt
Re: doesn't matter
I just hope your not serious about listing wireless as competition against wired broadband. |
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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
join:2001-08-18
Naples, FL
·Comcast
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Same here. There is no FIOS. There is no DSL (too far from CO, it's been the same problem for eight years now). Satellite is essentially useless for my needs, with the latency and the ludicrous throttling. How many others are in the same predicament?
Comcast doesn't appear to be interfering with torrents in this area yet, but if they start, what am I supposed to do -- pull my USR Courier 33.6 out of the closet and say "Screw you, Comcast" as I sign up for AOL dialup? I'm an IT contractor and I use my Internet connection daily for work. If it comes to it, I'll have to let torrents go rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater. Competition my ass.
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA
clubs:
| what's the deal here
That Cox throttles is not surprising...I see it all the time, however, with one exception. There is a site with hockey games where it is mandatory to seed and I'm seeing download speeds of 500 kb/s or better. I don't see that with any other torrent files. It may start out at over 100 kb/s, but Cox quickly throttles that down to 25. So what is the likely reason I'm seeing 500 this morning...timeframe?
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moonfish
join:2007-09-13
Memphis, TN | reply to Matt
Re: Bellsouth?
I have to agree, one of the reasons I switched from Comcast to BellSouth was because I couldn't use BitTorrent on Comcast. I've never had an issue with torrents on BellSouth/AT&T. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| Comcast
A friend of mine has Comcast as his only choice and when we are conferencing on Skype and there are more then 3 of us in the group Comcast's packet shaping just murders his connection he is consently dropping out. 
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| reply to insomniac84
Re: doesn't matter
said by insomniac84 :I just hope your not serious about listing wireless as competition against wired broadband. I am. For some people, it's perfectly acceptable. I actually have to tell a lot of the sales guys I support to turn it off when they hard-wire in, otherwise they have no idea they are still using their EVDO connections.
I have EVDO through work and while it can range from worse than dial-up to not too bad, I cringe when I have to use it. |
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Pichin
join:2001-07-01
Altamonte Springs, FL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to DrModem
Re: AOL?
said by DrModem :How did anyone even notice the throttling there :P Better yet... Who still uses AOL?  |
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David
No,there is another.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
clubs: | reply to Matt
Re: Bellsouth?
That makes me wonder as well, I even get the RST's on my bit torrents.
I am wondering on the data collection as well. My torrents when I do them always seem to go through regardless. They are not any more delayed than any others. |
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pg2andRST
@verizon.net
| fale positives
if you have an ip blocking filter such as peerguardian.. you may want to disable that and get the internal azureus ip filter if your reporting RST data blocking... every 10 minutes there will be huge block of RST's but no noticeable degradation of bandwidth. you will only see the real thing if you let azureus filter ips for you. |
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AOL_RULZ
@aol.com
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Re: AOL?
said by Pichin :Better yet... Who still uses AOL? There are still a few of us left.  |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| reply to pg2andRST
Re: fale positives
said by pg2andRST :
if you have an ip blocking filter such as peerguardian.. you may want to disable that and get the internal azureus ip filter if your reporting RST data blocking... every 10 minutes there will be huge block of RST's but no noticeable degradation of bandwidth. you will only see the real thing if you let azureus filter ips for you.
However, that doesn't mean the aggregate data is necessarily bad because, for the most part, there's going to be the same percentage of people using PG on each of the networks.
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