  Chuckles Premium join:2006-03-04 Saint Paul, MN | ?
So these large cabinets don't exist? |
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| What is the point?
This ad makes no sense from a business stand point.
I can see them spending the money if they wanted to try and generate opposition to the deployment, but if the box is already there, it's too late for this ad to be effective. As far as the customer is concerned, the 'damage is done' and they should just consider the new competitor. |
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join:2000-08-16 Miami, FL | cool
Looks like a futuristic mail box. |
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  jchambers28
join:2007-05-12 Alma, AR 1 edit | comcast ad
Thats funny and thats takes the cake right there |
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  marigolds Gainfully employed, finally Premium,MVM join:2002-05-13 Saint Louis, MO
| With the consent of the owner?
The VRADs are indeed large, cabinet-like boxes. But AT&T, in its complaint, says the boxes each serve up to 750 homes and only occasionally are placed on private property with the consent of the owner. Do they mean that most of the time the VRADs are placed on private property without the consent of the owner? Or is AT&T actually saying in a court filing that they will cancel plans to place a VRAD in an easement if the property owner does not want it there? -- ISCABBS - the oldest and largest BBS on the Internet telnet://bbs.iscabbs.com Professional Geographer Geographic Information Science researcher |
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join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Perhaps by "private property" they mean "private property without an easement"? |
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  BabyBear Keep wise ...with Night-Owl
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| Nice forced prespective!
Guess they could have taken the picture from a little lower perspective and would have made the VRAD look 2 stories tall, maybe hang one of those flying screaming monkeys off the side. King Kong style! 
Typical of just about all ads now a days misleading without any substantive info.
My VRAD box isn't much bigger than the neighborhood POTS box that's also connected to a 3 story wooden pole.  |
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  JTRockville Data Ho Premium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD clubs: | Why doesn't ATT run rebuttal ads with cable plant pictures
I'm sure Jonathon Kramer would give reprint permission for these: »kramerfirm.com/pictures/displayi···up&pos=0 |
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  ptrowski Got Helix? Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT clubs: | AT&T should retort....
"The VRADS may be big, but we don't use Sandvine and we don't hate P2P." |
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1 edit | reply to Dogfather Re: What is the point?
said by Dogfather :This ad makes no sense from a business stand point. I can see them spending the money if they wanted to try and generate opposition to the deployment, but if the box is already there, it's too late for this ad to be effective. As far as the customer is concerned, the 'damage is done' and they should just consider the new competitor. I don't live anywhere near Comcast or AT&T territory (believe me, I'm very grateful of that), but I would imagine that the deployment is still on-going. I would also imagine that if there is no demand for the product they would eventually delay or even cancel deployment in areas where it hasn't been yet deployed. |
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  morbo Complete Your Transaction
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snicker. |
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 EngineerDave
join:2001-08-27 Hattiesburg, MS | reply to marigolds Re: With the consent of the owner?
There is a lease agreement when a cabinet is placed on private property. |
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join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA | reply to BabyBear Re: Nice forced prespective!
I have yet to see AT&T stick any box around here in front of someone's house. Every installation that I've seen is either conveniently masked by trees and surroundings and/or in unoccupied lots where the closest house is at least a block away. |
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  snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22 Wheaton, IL clubs: | reply to ptrowski Re: AT&T should retort....
They probably hate P2P just as much as the next ISP, if not for the burden on the network the legal treats from the MPAA/RIAA. |
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said by EPS :Perhaps by "private property" they mean "private property without an easement"? some of them are on city / county land. |
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Can't be any prettier than those comcast boxes that are pryed open by techs who loose the keys, ran into by cars, kicked by frustrated property owners, and then covered up with trash bag looking covers & duct tape, wires still hanging out and holes in the ground all over where they had wires ripped up from vandals who saw their opportunity. |
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| reply to ptrowski Re: AT&T should retort....
said by ptrowski :"The VRADS may be big, but we don't use Sandvine and we don't hate P2P." Hmm, »www.slyck.com/story1640_ATT_P2P_···Consumer -- "Don't steal. The government hates competition." |
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| reply to JTRockville Re: Why doesn't ATT run rebuttal ads with cable plant pictures
Those are buried boxes (supposed to be closed BTW) and usually only stick up about 2 feet. They are about 8 inches by 8 inches in size. Also, those that you posted are usually used in areas like trailer parks or areas where a straight buried line can be put in place from dwelling to dwelling.
There is no comparison here. I would much rather have a big box in my yard than all these freaking wires the cable companies put on poles. I dream of a day where I can drive up the street and not see any wires hanging anywhere. It has gotten so bad here (electric, cable, telco, other providers fiber, more fiber, more fiber) it looks like a bad day at a data center. |
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  newview Ex .. Ex .. Exactly Premium join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD | please, Please, PLEASE . . .
. . . put one in my yard. |
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  DrModem Premium join:2006-10-19 USA | reply to ctceo Re: Pretty
Or the houses Comcast techs blow up. They look particularly ugly. |
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