neosolace
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join:2003-08-25
Verbena, AL | oh really...
What did Google really expect to happen? |
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Subaru
1-3-2-4
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Greenwich, CT
clubs:  | Can't get in the way of money... |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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said by neosolace  :What did Google really expect to happen? If Google wanted real "open access", then they should have bid on the spectrum "TO WIN" and put their money where their big fat mouth was. But they wanted the gravy without paying for the meat. Now they are just whining to daddy(FCC) to bail them out.
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA | It's the FCC, what do you expect?
You know the FCC, the Fusking Corrupt Commission!
The most corrupt of all the govt. agencies by far! |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Hey now
It's better than nothing, right? At least there is some traction for the FCC to make 700Mhz network operators be interoperable.
The Comcast packet forging was already deemed unreasonable network management, I think they can apply the same standards to Verizon. Of course, Martin doesn't always apply the same standards to phone and cable. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
USA
| You forgot one thing....
while the "hey wow I can actually use my connection" tier -- to be launched at the end of this year -- won't be well marketed and will likely cost a pretty penny. Then, when users don't flock to the poorly advertised, pricey service, Verizon will declare that the lack of subscribers is proof that people don't want open access. Thus, they will "encourage" the FCC to drop the open access requirement so that the Open Access tier could be canceled.
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | that's not 1st step; first step is to pretty much ignore the spirit of the conditions and see if they get yelled at.
if they get yelled at, then they do what you say. |
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Luker3
join:2004-10-09
Blacksburg, VA | They knew
Google saw this coming a mile away. I don't think they realized how important it was to consumers until now. Bad move on their part and they are trying to make up for it. |
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whatonearth
@cox.net | Oh, right...
Let's all acknowledge that Verizon is doing a bad thing, but pile on Google like they're no better. Compare Verizon and Google, in your mind. Now do it again, and then explain why we're complaining about Google here. |
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Dalmatian28
@sfsu.edu
| Good job Verizon!
I can't stand Verizon and I do think that they are too greedy but....finely someone is standing up to Google. Google runs those dirty business practices like Apple. They think that they are the only one with a brain and everyone else is a bunch of idiots. They had so much money to spend and buy all of the 700 frequency...they didn't! Now they are crying! Buuuu Good job Verizon! |
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JohnA
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join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: oh really...
Exactly! Don't game the auction, if you don't want the winners to game the open access provisions. Didn't put up ..... Shut up. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Too early?
Has VZW even announced or done anything relating to open access end-user policies? Just seems to be paranoia. |
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Mike_343
I Need Speed.
join:2001-07-05
Dyer, IN
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Re: Good job Verizon!
said by Dalmatian28 :
I can't stand Verizon and I do think that they are too greedy but....finely someone is standing up to Google. Google runs those dirty business practices like Apple. They think that they are the only one with a brain and everyone else is a bunch of idiots. They had so much money to spend and buy all of the 700 frequency...they didn't! Now they are crying! Buuuu Good job Verizon!
umm what dirty buisness practices? Google is nothing like apple. Since when do they sell software and computers or better yet what do they sell to consumers at all? |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
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Re: Too early?
Massive amounts of Google PR lip flapping, nothing more. People continue to forget that Google is an advertising company and they are very good at promoting themselves via press release and posturing.
Before the end of the decade they will be as hated as Microsoft is now.
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
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Re: oh really...
said by TKJunkMail :said by neosolace :What did Google really expect to happen? If Google wanted real "open access", then they should have bid on the spectrum "TO WIN" and put their money where their big fat mouth was. But they wanted the gravy without paying for the meat. Now they are just whining to daddy(FCC) to bail them out. I usually don't post "ditto" posts, but I'm going to this time  Google seems to have stumbled, somehow believing their "we're Google" invincibility would magically make this all work. Wireless is a real brick-and-mortar world; you can't build a network like you build and release a new feature with an army of young programmers and Linux boxes... |
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CylonRed
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join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
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Re: Too early?
And I have yet to figure out why Google got to where it is now - I am flummoxed as to how they did it. Maybe because pure marketing does not sway me in my decisions.
I still use Yahoo because its search is no worse than Google. I have yet to not be able to find anything I search for on Yahoo and I have no need for all of the other free goodies they advertise.
Just like with Apple - I have not swallowed the Kool-Aid and caved adn bought a ixxxx and I won't just like I have no need for Google branded anything. |
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR | reply to neosolace
Re: oh really...
They wanted their cake and eat it too.
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anon72546
@in.us
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Re: Good job Verizon!
One can conclude that they stole their ad software...
But Googles business motto is "Don't be evil."
I have found the greatest ideas are often stolen... from people who are obviously not smart enough to get a patent...
hmmm... weird... |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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Re: oh really...
said by neosolace :What did Google really expect to happen? They expected the FCC to actually do it's job or something?
Noobs! |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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Re: Too early?
said by RadioDoc :Before the end of the decade they will be as hated as Microsoft is now. That would be an epic achievement. They'd have to really start screwing people over for a lot of money in short order to have a chance of reaching that milestone....
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