ender7074
join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO | Meh
Too bad they cant get any kind of decent DSL speeds to their user area. 768k is a joke. The limited area that this affects isn't hardly worth talking about... |
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ptrowski
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1 edit | Funny, I get around 5.1 mbps here in Ct. Are you saying the max they offer is 768? |
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AMDUSER
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Earth
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1 edit | reply to ender7074
AT&T says they'll offer pair bonded VDSL by the end of this year. To offer bonded VDSL, AT&T needs to assign two DSLAM ports to each customer. This may prove intresting; in some areas there may be a shortage of free pairs.
(In addition, some areas may only have one pair per residence .) |
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Chris 313
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Houma, LA
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 ·Comcast Digital Vo..
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| Yawn...
"Special residential gateway to offer faster speeds than 10Mbps" Talk about a Yawn fest. Cable already has them beat.
By the time AT&T rolls out the tech to give users at certain feet more then 10/1.5, cable will have moved up to 16/2/30/5/50/5 packages.
AT&T won't last with the strategy they're doing. It'll be interesting to see when they actually figure this out. |
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FiosPhoneman
@optonline.net
| Please dont compare the two
I am a Verizon FiOS installer who lives in Ct. U-Verse country and you can never compare the two. U-verse can only give (tops) 6 Meg for internet when Verizon offers 20 as the standard package. The TV picture on U-verse pixelates and freezes on HD. Verizon has the best picture out there and I will back it up. I will stick to my DirecTV. |
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Goober
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL | reply to Chris 313
Re: Yawn...
If nothing else, it helps spur along the movement to ever increasing speeds. Can't help but like that. |
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
 ·Verizon Wireless B..
·Bright House
| behind the scenes
Here's a little info from behind the scenes...
U-Verse is being deployed by way of the Alcatel 7330. AT&T is installing two shelves per RT they plan to provide U-Verse. The first shelf is dedicated to ADSL and ADSL ONLY. The second shelf is reserved for IPTV customers. Before bonding each shelf can handle 192 customers over a (fiber) GigE connection. Actually, the GigE connection feeding the ADSL portion can handle up to 4 shelves (768 circuits).
To handle this bonding they'll provide a port from each shelf. They're still working ways to handle U-Verse & bond sites with: DISC*S MX, Alcatel 7300-HD, Alcatel 7300 LP-HD, Alcatel 7300 LP-UD and a few other varients. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
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| reply to Chris 313
Re: Yawn...
Actually, I hope AT&T's offer won't be able to compete completely with Cable.
That way AT&T will undercut pricing to promote it and there will be a cheaper bundling option for Internet/Phone/TV then now.
If AT&T feels that U-Verse is as good as what the Cable Co offers, watch out--- they'll both set the prices to "Max" and basically be within dollars of each other, and it will be high.
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | 30%.....?
... with special CPE needed, and pair-bonded VDSL... I'm wondering if costs are going to increase, especially long term.
And AT&T's solution will be near Max right from the start, while FIOS has room to grow. |
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Alpine
Premium
join:2000-01-11
Atlanta, GA
1 edit | Cost...
They may have to compete on cost but maybe not.
If they can add IP-related features that the cable companies can't match, they may be able to use those rather than raw speed as the price driver. At some point, except for so-called "power users," raw speed ceases to be a selling item and more/different features become more important. Besides, so many people HATE cable for their awful service and high prices. ANY alternative will be attractive to many.
UVerse offers a bunch of Internet speeds - 1.5, 3, 6 and now 10. I bet one of those speeds will satisfy at least 99% of people. Hell, I'm an IT-industry "power user" and virtually never use my 6 meg connection. In my younger days, yes, but I've grown out of the whole P2P thing and I know I'm not alone.
Either way, it's good to see an alternative to cable and satellite. |
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ptrowski
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| reply to Goober
Re: Yawn...
said by Goober  :If nothing else, it helps spur along the movement to ever increasing speeds. Can't help but like that. Agree with you there. Two HD streams are better than one, as are faster speeds.
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Chris 313
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| reply to Goober
said by Goober :If nothing else, it helps spur along the movement to ever increasing speeds. Can't help but like that. Yes, cause if I remember Dadkins got the 16/2 Blast package cause Calli was getting U-Verse's 10/1.5 package and Comcast wanted to stay ahead.
So, maybe this is a good thing, however suck the copper is. |
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morbo
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1 edit | reply to Alpine
Re: Cost...
said by Alpine :Besides, so many people HATE cable for their awful service and high prices. ANY alternative will be attractive to many. the numbers clearly show that AT&T is not competing on price. they are trying but not yet succeeding in competing on service. AT&T is competing on being the "ANY altnerative" to cable and satellite. so you get the disgruntled consumers and those willing to be guinnea pigs under the illusion of it being something new.  |
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Mr Anon
@il.us
| I don't have a need for it... yet
I only have one HD stream but I could use it for PnP but as it is I hardly am home to watch TV at the moment. Having WHDVR is probably going to be bigger for me.
I don't now what the future in speeds and offering is going to bring. I'm pretty sure that no company would want to double work and requirements for those that don't need it. For people closer to the VRAD, like myself, I sync at more than 2x my RG's speed, I get about 60Meg but my complete profile is of course 25Meg, and only 10 of that do I get to use for interent.
I'm also not sure about a special RG needed outside either. I don't know if the current RG (which is inside the house for those that don't know) can establish two connections but I do know that I'm on the 2nd pair. Also from what I've been reading I gather that the RGs can support VDSL or VDSL2 |
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koolkid1563
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join:2005-11-06
Powell, WY
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Re: Please dont compare the two
While I agree with you on most points, U-verse has one more internet tier now which is 10/1.5. Still nothing compared to FiOS, but it is >6 |
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jt45
@comcast.net | reply to ptrowski
Re: Meh
in some areas 768kbps is the fastest att does. sound like that person lives in no mans land to only get 768kbps. |
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koolkid1563
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1 edit | reply to weaseled386
Re: behind the scenes
That is odd. You would think that if a VRAD has both a VDSL and an ADSL DSLAM in it that green U-verse customers would also be green for ADSL, which isn't always true. There have been a few cases where a customer is red for ADSL on any tier but green for U-verse.
Unless they don't have the ADSL DSLAMs installed yet? |
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David
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
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| reply to Alpine
Re: Cost...
said by Alpine :In my younger days, yes, but I've grown out of the whole P2P thing and I know I'm not alone. yep, I have too, and you are not alone. I used to p2p and bit torrent quite frequently. Now since open source has started to gain more and more steam, it seems that the stuff on bit torrent just isn't worth it's weight in gold anymore.
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL | reply to koolkid1563
Re: behind the scenes
Yeah, that is kinda odd. My best GUESS is that there is a DSL DSLAM at their RT, but it's full? |
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA
| reply to FiosPhoneman
Re: Please dont compare the two
said by FiosPhoneman :
Verizon has the best picture out there and I will back it up. I will stick to my DirecTV.
way to back that point up  |
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