pnh102
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What about China? |
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AZ_OGM
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Phoenix, AZ | And North Korea, Iran, Cuba, etc. |
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pnh102
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| said by AZ_OGM  :And North Korea, Iran, Cuba, etc. Point.
Until this "Glasnost Project," which, humorously or not, is named after a scheme under which a former Soviet leader tried to perpetuate totalitarian rule in the USSR, actually provides a complete list of countries and ISPs which block Bittorrent, I think it is premature to conclude anything from it.
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said by AZ_OGM :And North Korea, Iran, Cuba, etc. If you had gone to the link you would have seen how dumb of a question it is. They are still gathering data. If you had looked at all before asking you would have realized that. It is still a new tool which not a vast majority of users are aware of. The sample from which this information was taken was a very small one specially from other countries.  |
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major marco
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China doesn't even block P2P traffic, but the U.S. does. How pathetic is that. |
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chronoss2008
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Re: Incomplete List
China is listed as having 8 nodes tested from 6 ISPs with no blocks reported.
Obviously this is a new project looking for additional data samples. |
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Re: Worse than China
said by major marco :China doesn't even block P2P traffic, but the U.S. does. How pathetic is that. I'd rather have bitorrent blocked than any site explaining what really happened in China in 1989. |
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Rob
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major marco
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Re: Worse than China
said by Omega :I'd rather have bitorrent blocked than any site explaining what really happened in China in 1989. The blocking of both are equally egregious, but don't kid yourself. American ISPs are blocking/throttling a hell of a lot more than just P2P. P2P is the start of the battle for who gets to be the gatekeeper/toll attendant. |
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David_
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My isp in Chile doesnt block p2p nor bittorrent, nothing at all ...
I usually download from popular trackers at full speed from my 2mbps cable line. (at 252 kB/s)
And unlike China our government doesnt apply any censorship at all either. We are as free as we can get.  |
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pnh102
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Re: Incomplete List
said by Karl Bode :China is listed as having 8 nodes tested from 6 ISPs with no blocks reported. Obviously this is a new project looking for additional data samples. Then it would be incorrect to conclude that the USA and Singapore are the worst offenders.
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Re: Worse than China
Personally, I think Bittorent is mostly used for illegal means. However, I still think with that said, the user should be the one to make the decision versus the ISP. I mean you are allowed to go out and buy a knife in the U.S. Most people will use this knife to cut things. However, there will always be a few who use said knife to commit crimes such as murder. Does that mean knives should be outlawed in the U.S.? While this is a big comparison, it's true to this circumstance. People should be given the freedom to do as they wish. If they make the wrong choice, they should be the only one to blame. When isps decide to play bad cop, they put themselves in harms way for lawsuits and FCC investigation as we see. |
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Karl Bode
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Re: Incomplete List
Whatever you'd like to believe, I guess. |
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said by pnh102 :said by Karl Bode :China is listed as having 8 nodes tested from 6 ISPs with no blocks reported. Obviously this is a new project looking for additional data samples. Then it would be incorrect to conclude that the USA and Singapore are the worst offenders. I think at this point it's perfectly fair to conclude that SO FAR, it appears the USA and Singapore are the worst offenders.
That's the great thing about on-going tests, the conclusions and results can be updated as time goes on. |
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pnh102
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said by Karl Bode :Whatever you'd like to believe, I guess. At best, this website provides tools for testing. But without actual research being done in many of these countries, it is not possible to reach a credible conclusion.
It would be like saying "Wyoming has more crime than California" when all your evidence is just the crime stats for Wyoming and nothing else for California.
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said by Karl Bode :Whatever you'd like to believe, I guess. Always a pain when the facts get in the way of one's agenda.... Makes it so much harder to justify or modify or distort to fit the ideology. Which in this case is "Big Business = Good"...
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Tests show everything is ok with rcn in chicago, il. Did the full test. |
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Re: Worse than China
said by jc100 :When isps decide to play bad cop, they put themselves in harms way for lawsuits and FCC investigation as we see. Well, in theory, anyway. Not with this FCC and the lawsuits probably wouldn't go far, either.  But your points are correct.
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