DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA | What?
quote:
Juniper insists there's a very clear market for WiMax in undeserved areas.
I sure hope that's a typo and not serious.  |
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puffgussy36
join:2007-01-15
Hampton, NH
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| Hurry up already!
I'm so sick of WiMAX is in, WiMAX is out, WiMAX is back in. Been following this story for what seems like years. Just tell me when I can turn on my notebook and tap in already?
I'm not paying AT&T another $60 bucks a month (on top of my already large wireless bill) just so I can tranfer my connection from my router to their network when I leave the house. And I just flat out refuse to deal with Verizon.
Google's involvement has me hopeful but man it just seems they have been dragging their feet (Clearwire, Sprint, McGraw, Intel, Time Warner, all of them). Wired connections are screaming and affordable (or at least competitive). It's time for wireless to get on board. NOW!
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I agree... I'd use WiMAX when/if it becomes available in my area for a competitive price.
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jlsamsel
join:2006-08-26
Stixville | The rural savior?
I rather doubt it. WiMax will probably only be offered in areas where DSL, cable, and fiber are readily available.
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puffgussy36
join:2007-01-15
Hampton, NH
·Comcast
| reply to en102
Re: Hurry up already!
I'm sure we are not alone. With mobile devices in the hands of over 75% of the population there simply are not enough options for how those devices can communicate and access the web.
Not that there is all that many options for wired devices either but at least wired access is typically priced at a flat rate (On Demand aside).
I'm hoping WiMAX will follow the same model. |
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dogma
Premium
join:2002-08-15
Boulder City, NV
| AT&T to go ALL wireless
Senior engineers I have spoken with at AT&T suggest they will completely abandon all copper lines in their franchise areas and deliver voice/data/video over wireless within 10 years. Too costly & labor intensive to maintain the "sticks". |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| when will the bubble burst?
Whats more has more vapor, BPL or WiMAX?
I'm waiting for the WiMAX bubble to burst. This is just another BS sponsored report to make investors run and cash dump their money in WiMAX. If WiMAX would be serious, Intel would be force bundling it with laptops already as part of Centrino, but its not. Thats how you know its not serious.
WiMAX will never be anything more than an alternative with Vendor inter-compatibility behind it to proprietary P2M microwave links/fixed WISP. Look how popular MMDS WISPs are in the USA, thats how popular WiMAX will ever get. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to puffgussy36
Re: Hurry up already!
WiMAX is still a cell network with much lower capacity than wired broadband systems. Cable has 54 MHZ of upstream bandwidth and 870 MHZ of downstream, WiMAX will have max 20 per company.
Clearwire throttles and caps, and Xohm is now Clearwire. And Clearwire is the attempt at Mobile WiMAX in the USA. It won't bring anything new to the table, Sprint EVDO is better since there is no cap. Would I want Mobile Satellite Internet with its FAP? No, I'd rather go with Sprint EVDO and be done it. |
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puffgussy36
join:2007-01-15
Hampton, NH
·Comcast
1 edit | Well my understanding of wireless technologies is limited. I just know what I want. I want the ability to whip out an iPhone or laptop or what have you while I'm out and about and connect to the Internet. Whatever speed keeps browsing from being a nuisance is fast enough. I don't do a lot of heavy downloading. Mostly I surf and check and send e-mail. But I'm not adding a $60 a month expense for that. It wouldn't be justified.
So I would ask, if WiMAX is not an improvement over the EVDO tech Sprint already has, why did these companies throw 3 bil Sprints way to build this thing out? |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to dogma
Re: AT&T to go ALL wireless
.... and I'll bet AT&T will get the USF to pay for all the wireless equipment deployed, and then when it's done they'll save the millions/hundreds of millions when they abandon all the old wire... not to mention laying off all the line techs and the like.... and you know damn well they won't pass the savings back to the subscribers.
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
| reply to puffgussy36
Re: Hurry up already!
said by puffgussy36  :I'm so sick of WiMAX is in, WiMAX is out, WiMAX is back in. Been following this story for what seems like years. Just tell me when I can turn on my notebook and tap in already? I'm not paying AT&T another $60 bucks a month (on top of my already large wireless bill) just so I can tranfer my connection from my router to their network when I leave the house. And I just flat out refuse to deal with Verizon. Google's involvement has me hopeful but man it just seems they have been dragging their feet (Clearwire, Sprint, McGraw, Intel, Time Warner, all of them). Wired connections are screaming and affordable (or at least competitive). It's time for wireless to get on board. NOW! That means your probably sick of hearing about LTE too. But your comment is typical of most of us consumers who want it NOW. Rather it get done right (Sprint didn't want another ION fiasco) and make sure it didn't fail. Next month or so should tell us just how well this is going to work out. I hope..  |
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xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| reply to DrModem
Re: What?
said by DrModem : quote:
Juniper insists there's a very clear market for WiMax in undeserved areas.
I sure hope that's a typo and not serious. pretty sure they meant underserved |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
2 edits | reply to patcat88
Re: Hurry up already!
I'm not 'promoting' WiMAX, however,
Sprint has ~100MHz (paired?) of 2.5GHz spectrum, if I'm not mistaken, which is more than any cellular company has. As far as cable goes, don't forget that its bandwidth is also shared across a node, and also delivers HDTV/SD TV service across the same spectrum.
Would have been good to purchase some Sprint stock last month and sell it today. They went from ~$6 to $9...
»ca.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=S&t=···m&q=l&c=
»ca.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=S&t=···m&q=l&c=
On the flip side, I'd be still at a loss if I would have purchased it before February.
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
| reply to patcat88
Re: when will the bubble burst?
said by patcat88 :Whats more has more vapor, BPL or WiMAX? You forgot one.. LTE..  |
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puffgussy36
join:2007-01-15
Hampton, NH
·Comcast
| reply to en102
Re: Hurry up already!
To tc1uscg:
Actually, I agree with you about them doing it right. I just wish they wouldn't tell us about this sort of thing until it was actually available (and working). Not everyone can be Apple I guess.
To en102:
I'm sure Mr. Buffett has been buying a few shares as well as AMD (well maybe not AMD).  |
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to jlsamsel
Re: The rural savior?
Yeah, it'll be right out there with BPL, bringing the Innernets to the cornfields... 
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to tc1uscg
Re: when will the bubble burst?
LTE was adopted by Ma Bell (Verizon/ATT), guaranteed roll out now. Plus LTE will have rural coverage so cheap PCS carriers (likes of Tmobile, Sprint, MetroPCS, Cricket) and regionals (US Cellular) will HAVE to have deploy LTE or have dual mode handsets to have national roaming, not having national roaming of any kind is a death sentence for any cell carrier.
Something tells me WiMAX will never exceed Sprint's 3G coverage area or be a provider of last resort like ATT Mobility/Verizon Wireless, WiMAX and the PCS cell carriers are high frequency, low penetration, low range systems that are urban, and partially suburban systems, not exurban and rural. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to puffgussy36
Re: Hurry up already!
Mr. Buffett's stock is doing plenty well on its own
»ca.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=BRK-···m&q=l&c=
It has lost about $20,000/share since January though, most likely due to the economic conditions here in general. I.E. insurance holdings don't mean much when people are declaring bankruptcy, or walking away from their homes, or unemployed.
Day's Range: 128,100.00 - 130,900.00
52wk Range: 107,200.00 - 151,650.00
Volume: 631
Avg Vol (3m): 64,860.3
Market Cap: 198.58B
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GemSnake
Premium
join:2000-10-19
3rd layer
clubs: 
| reply to puffgussy36
I'm sure those deploying WiMax are doing it out of goodness of their hearts. They aren't running a business, but just watching over poor, underserved folks... Something tells me you'll be looking at another $50-$60/mo service.
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| The article is refer to WiMAX global penetration
You guys are looking at this very provincially. Believe it or not, WiMAX will be used more broadly outside the US.
While WiMAX probably won't be broadly used in rural areas in the US for many years, WiMAX is a major target for developing contries and rural areas outside the US that do not have existing telcom infrastructure. Cisco got into the WiMAX game for the global market. They don't care if it happens in the US or not.
WiMAX would survive even if the US didn't deploy it. And now, it looks like the chances are higher it will happen in the States, but not much will be rural for a long time. |
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