  danclan
join:2005-11-01 Midlothian, VA | Then can i filter every viacom produced media...
out as well so I don't have to fund you and yours? |
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  swhitney2003 I can't drive 55. Premium join:2003-06-13 NH clubs: 
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| Popcorn?
Among the arguments NBC tried to put forth was that broadband P2P use hurts the American farmer because less popcorn is sold. I never eat popcorn at theaters. In fact, there is a greater chance of me eating popcorn at home watching a movie. I'm not a big fan of overly priced food that doesn't taste all that great. |
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  DeafRandy
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| Here we go again. :\
Here we go again. *rolls eyes*
If you over legislate or try to DRM everything, you'll probably kill the 'net. I don't know how much traffic on the 'net is in violation of various copyright laws, but if you kill everything off, you won't have a 'net, and there goes all your business, corporate moguls. I agree something has to be done about what's going on, but this isn't it. |
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  Jeffrey too dark too early Premium join:2002-12-24 Dix Hills,NY clubs: | Is he drunk?
He sure looks it. Looks like he just finished a liquid lunch, and his opinions seem to confirm that. |
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  Julio Bachatero y Que? Premium join:2003-03-19 Brooklyn, NY clubs: | My money, my hardware
If they want their filters on my hardware, then how about they pay for my hardware? |
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  OpenMedia
@raytheon.com | Two words for you
Open Source.... |
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  nc1165
join:2001-04-10 Delray Beach, FL
| toward global dominance
It's just one more step toward global fascism, in the traditional sense. Corporations and private equity firms will run world, not governments and societies. Who cares who runs the White House. Just let me run the banks. -- Even if it spits in your face, a camel is still your best friend when crossing the desert. |
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 ender7074
join:2006-11-21 Saint Louis, MO | reply to Julio Re: My money, my hardware
And the connection too. |
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  yock TFTC Premium join:2000-11-21 Fairfield, OH
| Here's an idea.
If content providers want content filters on ISP networks, they should pay for the hardware, the software, and the continuing cost of running the equipment and service.
I suspect they already know the cost of that outweighs the money they lose to piracy, and that's why they want ISPs to pay for it. -- Laughter is the closest distance between two people. --Victor Borge Lynch All Liars |
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 nasadude
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| rent seeking as an art form
the content industry has taken rent seeking to new heights of irresponsibility and hubris.
never have so few requested so much, at the expense of so many.
unfortunately, they have been amply rewarded in the past and our rent-a-congress seems ready, willing and able to continue mandating outrageous financial penalties and draconian measures to prop up the content industries failing business model.
I guess when technology permits, they will be requesting brain chip implants for everyone under 30 to keep them from "pirating" content. |
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  swhitney2003 I can't drive 55. Premium join:2003-06-13 NH clubs: 
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| said by nasadude :I guess when technology permits, they will be requesting brain chip implants for everyone under 30 to keep them from "pirating" content. Reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman gets a chip implanted and can no longer swear without getting an electric shock. Or was it from SP the Movie? |
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  sharkpedal
join:2005-05-04 PA | Good Luck!
"That's one bad hat, Harry !"
Chief Brody |
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  woody7 Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | hmmmmm....
The picture says it all!  -- BlooMe |
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  major marco Res Firma Mitescere Nescit Premium join:2003-02-13 Stepford, CA clubs:
| Decisions, Decisions
It's really a toss up as to which face best personifies the face of ::GREED:: |
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| said by major marco :It's really a toss up as to which face best personifies the face of ::GREED:: Definitely a close race---the one on the left by a chin takes it! |
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 openbox9
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| reply to DeafRandy Re: Here we go again. :\
said by DeafRandy :
If you over legislate or try to DRM everything, you'll probably kill the 'net. You won't kill the 'net, but you will drive up costs for normal consumers and push some users further underground in their unauthorized distribution of content. |
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  Jason Levine Premium join:2001-07-13 USA
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I've got to agree. When I go to see a movie in the theatre, I don't buy popcorn or any other snacks/drinks. When I'm home though, I pop popcorn all the time. Ever since getting my wife a Whirley Pop, we eat a lot of popcorn. Even when we're not watching TV/movies.
So is it ok to pirate an NBC show provided you eat plenty of popcorn while watching it?  -- -Jason Levine Support a children's charity. Buy a calendar. Shooting For A Cause Jason's Toolbox | PCQandA.com |
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  Nsane_iceman Workaholic Premium join:2001-02-26 North Richland Hills, TX clubs:
| Mod Linksys I will use a computer.
Eh, if they start modifying SoHo routers and such I will just have to get an old Micron computer and load up Linux for a router/firewall.
If ISPs start using modified networking gear then it is a Linux wireless access point to create my own ad-hoc wireless network to share the fun. -- Avatar by: dandelion | Disarm you with a smile. | Tell me, tell me what you're after. I just want to get there faster. |
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  swhitney2003 I can't drive 55. Premium join:2003-06-13 NH clubs:  | I've got a '96 Micron. 200mhz Pentium, 96MB ram, 12GB (2GB+10GB). Case is sturdy and can probably double as a jack-stand. Still runs.  |
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  DownTheShore Maddie Knows Poopie Premium join:2003-12-02 Beautiful NJ clubs:
| Instead Of Realizing....
...that their world has changed, these content providers keep trying to push more and more restrictions and involve others in their attempts to restrict access to their product.
Sharing or piracy or whatever you want to call it, is out there. It started occurring the first time recording equipment was made available to the public. Heck, my parents gave me a portable reel-to-reel tape deck when I was in the fourth grade and I used to record songs off the radio. Did I become a criminal at that point in time? I don't think so.
They need to establish better models for marketing their product to the public. I am quite willing to pay for content that I want, but don't sell it to me crippled by DRM, or of a lower video or audio quality. Sell me a copy of a TV show with the commercials still present - I don't mind and it's a way for them to make some additional profit. Allow me access to realistically priced music and I'll buy it. I remember paying $0.75 for a 45rpm single, so $0.99 for a single song track is fine with me.
They also have to realize that the gravy train has left the station. They are no longer calling the shots nor are they in total control anymore. Their greed has lead to the current situation. We know how cheaply CD's can actually be made, so we no longer buy their excuses for high costs. We read about the multi-millions they make in syndication - with the majority of the money NOT going to the actors AND technicians who worked on the shows, so forgive us if we don't cry a river when they lament how much money they are losing in piracy.
What they fail to realize is that the people who share or pirate their product AREN'T GOING TO BUY IT ANYWAY, so they wouldn't be gettng that income either way. -- Life is simply one damned thing after another. |
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