Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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Erial, NJ | Feel sorry for you guys
You just got royally fucked. |
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sbrook
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| This is a decision based on Case Law
"This would appear to be only a denial of immediate relief based on proof of "irreparable harm" as defined by Canadian law. "
This should read as required by Canadian Case Law ... in other words in a prior judicial case for an injunction, a court asked for proof of irreparable harm. Because it's Case Law, it's neither defined nor binding on subsequent courts (or in this case a commission) to hold the participants to this standard. What has been missed in this case is the over-riding issue of consumer protection. |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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|  Proof?
It looks like they based their decision on the fact no irreparable harm had occurred YET and that the CAIP didn't provide sufficient proof that traffic levels across the GAS network were significantly changed.
Man, that decision is awful. They could have at least granted temporary relief while they decided. |
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bryanviper
join:2002-10-12
Toronto, CAN
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| CRTC
Useless CRTC,
Really are they that blind to see the problems this is causing other ISP's If they cant see that and dont know anything about IT, then need to be fired and get some real IT Pros that know what they are doing.
Looks like its time to start making our own fiber network so we can ge off Bell/Rogers and let them die in terms of providing Internet.
That or we need a big company like Verizon to come up to Canada and start laying Fiber in Ontario/Qe
Thanks CRTC for screwing us your the best! 
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I would have expected at least...
That the CRTC would force Bell Canada to allow for unthrottled Indie ISPs running wholesale Bell Canada DSL.
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TKJunkMail
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Re: Feel sorry for you guys
said by Jodokast96  :You just got royally fucked. No they weren't. All the CRTC did was refuse an injunction until the case could be heard. That is normal administrative procedure when irreparable harm is not proved.
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insomx
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Canada | Paid off
I bet Bell paid them off, wouldn't surprise me one bit. |
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Trisomy21
join:2006-04-27
Kingston, ON | Wouldn't surprise me either, fuck you Bell! |
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Jodokast96
R.I.P Bassman442
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Erial, NJ | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Feel sorry for you guys
Which will most likely end up with the same decision. I hope not though. |
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BellACancer
@teksavvy.com
| Just completely disgusting
This is probably one of the saddest day in the history of Canada.
We now need to ensure that CRTC is dismantled. We need something much more efficient.
Make sure you stay away from Bell and try to convince friends, family members, etc. to do the same.
Canada sucks big time. |
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CanadianIron
join:2006-10-08
Beverly Hills, CA
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Re: Paid off
A sad day for Canadian consumers.
Even if you try to escape Bell, you still are forced into using a connection hampered due to their backwards thinking mentality. So much for progress. |
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matradley
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Ontario
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| Lost a battle, not the war.
I know that this is unfortunate that we have lost this battle - we will just have to fuel the war a bit more. When the case comes before the Commission, the CAIP et al. will have to deliver more proof. I am sure that between then, enough legal battles with batter Bell to death to bring forth some more evidence. |
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fcisler
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join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
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Re: CRTC
When "they" get fired, and they go looking to hire new IT staff - what are the chances that somehow Bell will have their hands in the picking of the IT staff?
If not, would it surprise you if their new IT staff were also awarded a "position" at Bell - with a nice fat check - for "no reason at all"?
Sometimes your best bet is to have the "higher up's" know nothing about IT, and just get a good lawyer. They can both speak the same "language" (business law) and not have to involve explaining "Ok...so the cable comes in, they have a monkey looking at the packets and picking some out? Bell paid for that monkey!" |
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pfak
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Canada | reply to en102
Re: I would have expected at least...
I didn't expect anything better of the CRTC, they are a lame duck organization that is only run by corporate interests.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | It's not just P2P being throttled!
... According to user reports in the forums, any encrypted traffic of any kind is also throttled by default, since Bell assumes that encryption means P2P'ers...
This situation blows. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Feel sorry for you guys
said by TKJunkMail :said by Jodokast96 :You just got royally fucked. No they weren't. All the CRTC did was refuse an injunction until the case could be heard. That is normal administrative procedure when irreparable harm is not proved. No no. We DID get screwed !
Hell, i cancelled my plans to hook up with TekSavvy due to the throttling as i'm sure MANY others did. This IS irreparable harm as there is no way in hell i'd subscribe to a gimped ISP no matter how good their support it.
Way to to CONSERVATIVE CRTC ! I know who i'll NOT vote for at the next election.
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | reply to TKJunkMail
Well, if you go into the forums here, you will see a bunch of people who are being "harmed" and are as a result dumping their ISP's (Just like Bell intended, I'll bet)... |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | reply to en102
Re: I would have expected at least...
The current CRTC is under the CONSERVATIVE party influence : Corporations rule, consumers get screwed.
Sadly enough, It did not surprise me at all. :s
Adi |
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KrK
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said by pfak :I didn't expect anything better of the CRTC, they are a lame duck organization that is only run by corporate interests. So they model themselves after our FCC, then? |
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