Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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|  Glasnost Project
Has anyone EVER been able to get into that thing to test? I've tried hundreds of times and it's always busy.
Anyway, I'm glad they updated their results to note that none of the ILECs are using forged packets. That still makes we wonder about their data however. Did they re-evaluate their detection methods for ALL tests, or did they just re-inspect the ILEC results? |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
2 edits | I just tried their test and got the "all servers are busy" msg.
Edit:
I finally got a test to run(not the bittorrent test, but a link characteristic test):
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primeangel
join:2001-01-03
Lancaster, OH | yeah ive been trying since they posted that story here originally...always says its busy |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | Same here, I never get through. |
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Jahntassa
What, I can have feathers
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join:2006-04-14
Conway, SC | reply to Matt
I got it to work once last week at my in-laws place.. |
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funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | reply to Matt
The load time for Java doesn't help matters, either. But I have successfully ran the test a number of times. Prior to this press cycle, I found that I could run a test within a minute or two -- I just had to keep retrying in order to do it. |
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to primeangel
said by primeangel  :yeah ive been trying since they posted that story here originally...always says its busy I managed a result once; out of about ten tries. Said my ISP wasn't interfering.
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wxpwzrd
join:2003-12-21
Thailand | Cox is blocking in Vegas
I am a Cox subscriber in Las Vegas. I have run the application a few times. Each time the site has reported that Cox is forging TCP RST packets, but not throttling the download speeds. |
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BillRoland
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join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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·Cox HSI
| Slow news day
Karl Bode , we've been over this before. The difference was Cox came out and acknowledged it immediately, while Comcast denied and then hmmm hawed around about it. Somebody at Cox knows that the best defense is a good offense.
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Go for the big guys first...
I think the FCC is investigating the bigger guys first, in this case Comcast. After the investigation, and if they have found Comcast guilty and fined them, they'll go after Cox.
Why waste time on Cox when Comcast is the bigger fish?
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to Matt
Re: Glasnost Project
Wonder if their test methodologies are as flawed as their server resource allocation seems to be?  |
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koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| /.
None of the Glasnost servers are available not only because there's only a few of them to use, but -- right now -- mainly because Slashdot has a story up mentioning them.
Try again in about 2 weeks.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  Comcast VP Cohen - Martin hate each other
Comcast Gets Investigated While Cox Gets Free Pass I think some of that is due to Martin's hatred of Comcast. And that may be due to the antipathy between Comcast's lobbying VP Cohen(ex Phila deputy mayor) and Martin. On more than 1 occasion Cohen has made public negative remarks about Martin and has refused to meet with him.
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funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
 ·Skype
4 edits | Why DSLReports Readers Gave Cox A Pass
Hi guys,
While I wasn't the first person to notice the interference on Comcast or Cox, I was the first person to analyze it sufficiently to determine that these two companies were using Sandvine to block P2P traffic. (With Cox, my findings were limited to ED2K because the BitTorrent traces at my disposal simply weren't good enough for me to put my reputation on the line.)
When I posted my first report about this back in May of 2007, the report was largely set aside. It wasn't so much that people disbelieved it altogether, it was more that people on DSLReports are networking experts, enthusiasts, and students and all off us -- at one time or another -- have either been troubled by or taken actions in response to the on-network behavior of somebody else. The story didn't take off until mid-August when it was covered by TorrentFreak.
Quite frankly, back in May 2007, Network Neutrality was such an immutable principle in my thinking that I didn't realize anyone thought it debatable. But we all know that the immutable principle had been violated before -- in tiny increments, with little to no backlash:
- ISPs blocked spam sources
- ISPs blocked certain incoming ports commonly attacked
- ISPs blocked certain outgoing ports commonly attacked
- ISPs blocked certain incoming service ports
- ISPs blocked spam based on message body attributes
So it seemed like a natural progression to DSLReports readers when it was revealed that ISPs had, for months, already been blocking P2P to some degree. Users in the Adelphia forum on DSLReports had discussed it at length and detail. Several here-and-there reports on other ISP forums indicated strange uploading issues or seeing RSTs where they weren't expected. As I was putting this all together, I found similar messages on the support forums ran by popular P2P applications.
I don't think DSLReports users gave it a pass. I think we're all fans of an open, standards-based Internet that provides the maximum amount of access to everyone. I just think that most users take it as an unfortunate fact that there are few choices among Broadband providers in most areas. Whether we like it or not, most of us have to take whatever they're willing to give us.
If ISPs have decided that P2P file-sharing was a scourge -- and even we as a reader base have been affected by it in one way or another -- it's easy to fail to look beyond the facts to the greater implications. We probably didn't overtly give it a "pass," we probably failed to take a position on whether such blocking is good or bad.
I'll say it again -- Comcast is not a bad ISP. They've been quite reluctant to do non-Neutral things like blocking outgoing port 25. So when I learned that they DO block P2P applications, it was pretty shocking to me (hence my report), but perhaps acceptable if they only "throttled back a little," or "only affected uploads," or "only did it during hours of congestion," (to name three assertions that I initially presumed that turned out to be ultimately untrue).
The GREAT NEWS is that RST is probably dead as a "Reasonable Network Management" method. Only Comcast and Cox were regularly using the method (the other MSOs apparently only tested it and declined). The FCC cannot possibly find that this was "Reasonable Network Management" and has no choice but to order the activity stopped.
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DivineDark
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | not here
Cox must only be picking trouble spots to block because my connection came back clean. Can anyone else in OKC report? |
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powerhog
Stinkin' up the joint
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join:2000-12-14
Owasso, OK
·AtlasOK
| While my ISP isn't actually COX, they (COX) do provide the back-haul services to my ISP. In fact, I'm assigned a COX IP and most places, like here at DSLR, identify me as a COX customer.
With that bit of background info, I have run the tests and they showed no blocking or interference of P2P. So it could be that COX in Tulsa isn't blocking either. |
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NIllinois
@comcast.net
| Stop the bandwidth pirates
I am tired of some people paying the same price and sucking all the bandwidth. Bring on metered usage. If you use it, then pay for it. It's time broadband became like any other utility like electricity and gas. It's especially true because the total bandwidth is limited.This would be a whole lot better then filtering content. Maybe another option would be a tier system so you could buy a flat MB package like Cell phone companies do. It seems to me the only people who would complain about a metered system is the people that are the culprits of this problem.I think with more media downloads and more bandwidth hungry content that something will be done. |
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DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
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join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
clubs:
| Results are bogus
We serve about 50,000 DSL users, and run our own network. We don't do any blocking or other odd stuff - just straight connections. (No PPPoE even - real bridged IPs, dynamic or static)
But, we are on their list. Thus, I think their testing methods are totally cracked. FYI!
-Dane Jasper
Sonic.net |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| That project is BS, plain and simple. They have no mechanism to determine why the test failed. A misconfigured router, company firewall, or even norton could cause this test to fail. All they are doing is matching up their fails with the whois on the IP, then falsely accusing the ISP of wrong doing. |
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iliketoplay1
join:2006-02-06
Merrill, WI | Cant even get a ping
I cant even ping the site, it says can not find host. |
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