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»chronicle.com/free/2008/05/2821n.htm
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Mount Airy, MD | BYOI Yawn... students who want unfettered access to P2P are always welcome to move off-campus and get a broadband provider that won't quiz them.
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kudos:1 | Re: BYOI Why not just setup a private hub or something full of stuff? sheesh I know of a few at some local universites taht were just as good. Had all the biggest, latest stuff people wanted. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by Chiyo:Why not just setup a private hub or something full of stuff? sheesh I know of a few at some local universites taht were just as good. Had all the biggest, latest stuff people wanted. Don't students actually study anymore? 
Back in the last millennium when I was an undergrad I must have spent just about all my non-class time working or studying. I guess I just missed out on all the fun.
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Work, class, study, REPEAT
Worked 2 jobs, a full time internship, 12 additional credits and an independent study on a 400 level Sociology course all in my last semester.
I slept through my graduation party. Hard to believe it was more than 10 years ago.
Still have the student loan payments to prove it!
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1 edit | Re: BYOI said by jc100:O cut your usual crap PNH. Seriously, colleges have always been about 75 percent study and 25 percent party or leisure. Wow... between being in a real major, working a couple of part time jobs, and studying, I had no life outside of school. In fact, I work far less now than I ever did as an undergrad.
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Annapolis, MD | Re: BYOI I dunno, I exited the college track with a 3.2 GPA in my undergrad major and a 3.8 in my grad school MS degree.
I had a Heck of a Time partying throughout.
Granted, my first couple semesters weren't so hot, way too much partyin' and not enough studying. But I eventually figured out the balance, even with a job (P/T) thrown in the mix.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by KoolMoe:I dunno, I exited the college track with a 3.2 GPA in my undergrad major and a 3.8 in my grad school MS degree. I finished with a 3.2 as well for my undergrad degree... but I had a hard time earning it. If I hadn't studied as much as I did... I would have flunked out. As for grad school, I slacked... I pulled a 3.1, which of course is just above barely passing
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Annapolis, MD | Re: BYOI So you slacked...and you didn't par-tay? Ah, your choice then. Where I took what free time I could to drink beer, others too that time to play Nintendo. Some did both! If you had the time to slack, then no complaining about not having the time to party
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Annapolis, MD | Re: BYOI Guys, don't get in so deep, this was just a fun sidetrack.
So if you slacked...what did you do as slack? Sleep? Hike? Read romance novels? Collect belly-button lint?
Since the thread has already taken a nasty turn, I'm not going to get into challenging credentials. I'm very confident in saying that while my undergrad may not have been super-challenging, the grad program was FAR from cake (stale crackers and water at best...so had to break for the beer often!).
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by jc100:I studied to be a teacher. Ahh... those who can, do. And those who can't, teach. 
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by jc100:Said the man with the education and know how to write the vary sentence that criticizes. And you're a teacher?
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And you're a teacher?
Says the man who criticizes others while using A FRAGMENT and beginning a sentence with a conjunction. The pot calling the kettle black. I guess your teachers DID FAIL YOU. If you are going to mock others, be sure you have your ducks in a row. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by jc100:to present under new aspects - According to Meriam Webster, it can be used as a transitive. I never claimed English was my best point grammatically speaking. The proper spelling of the word you should have used is "very."
said by jc100:said by pnh102:And you're a teacher? Says the man who criticizes others while using A FRAGMENT and beginning a sentence with a conjunction. Actually, my question is grammatically correct. Furthermore, even if I had made a grammatically incorrect statement by ending the above with a period instead of a question mark, it would not be a fragment.
And no, I am not a teacher.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by jc100:Sigh. First, I referred to the fact you STARTED a sentence with the word AND. I see. So I started it.
said by jc100: And = Conjunction. Therefore, you created a sentence fragment. Yawn. A sentence fragment is something which cannot stand on its own as a sentence. My original question could, so hence, it is not a fragment.
said by jc100:Notice, the word and is a conjunction and links two sentences together. You already stated that English wasn't your best subject, so I understand that you may not be able to recognize a properly formed English question.
said by jc100:So FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL would be your word of week. Is that even a word? Maybe you need to go back to "what" and find out if they speak English there.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by jc100:A) English might not be my best topic but nor is it yours. But you haven't proved that my question is grammatically incorrect. Meanwhile, you have been making spelling mistakes (on a website with a spell checker no less), various usage errors and other English mistakes. I don't see how you are in any position of authority to evaluate my perfect English skills.
said by jc100: Go google the word conjunction. Conjunction junction what's your function. Have you ever heard of that phrase? Direct quotations should be marked as such.
said by jc100:I guess school house rock didn't teach you anything. Titles are proper nouns and should be capitalized.
said by jc100:You can't get yourself of this one. You should proofread to make sure you did not any words out
said by jc100:Back to the topic, you can thank your teachers for your ability to read and write. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the US military, as I learned to read and write in English.
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"But you haven't proved that my question is grammatically incorrect." The word but is a conjunction and IT LINKS two sentences or thoughts together.
Seriously PNH, don't thank anyone for your own stupidity. You're about as lame as it gets here bud. I'm done with this conversation. It's proven time and time again, your basis and delusional tendencies far outweigh arguing with. No wonder you joined the military, you were far too inept to handle the real world so you had to let others dictate your life. This shouldn't be construed in the sense that people who join the military are dumb. However, some like yourself have no other choice, when mother nature gave you nothing else to work from. Obviously, it should be noted all conversations with you go off track and focus on the mundane. At which point, you fail miserably at trying to hash that out, when you make the same mistakes. | |
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1 edit | Re: BYOI said by jc100:Once again, you started a SENTENCE with a conjunction. There we have it, PNH can't even grasp English, but he criticizes others. Sounds like you have reading comprehension problems as well.said by jc100:Seriously PNH, don't thank anyone for your own stupidity. Maybe some of my teachers went to your school?
said by jc100:No wonder you joined the military... I did? That's news to me!
said by jc100: You're about as lame as it gets here bud. I'm done with this conversation. Good. I win.
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NYC Metro | said by jc100:O cut your usual crap PNH. Seriously, colleges have always been about 75 percent study and 25 percent party or leisure. Since colleges have been around college kids have gotten in to trouble for one thing or another. In the 60s it was protests and now in the 2000+ its p2p. I'm not justifying it, but nor is it some shocking revelation where we all must pretend to gasp. It happens, face it. The RIAA isn't even proving their case by these letters. However, most people tend not to fight them due to legal costs. What's to say these affected computers weren't part of a net of hacked drones? While I doubt that to be the case, it's still possible. Botnets and hacked computers wreak havoc on many ISPS. There's nothing to say that said computer isn't hacked and used as someone else's storage and proxy to share said files. Either way, get off the kick bud. I don't even know why I bother replying to you, as rarely do your comments add ANY BIT of relevance to ANY conversation on dslreports. LOL..
NJIT is probably more along the lines of 95% study and 5% leisure (usually World of Warcraft). I can't recall any good parties taking place here... There is a 15:1 male to female ratio and if there are any females, they are probably Muslims with the cloth over their heads. Good thing is that this school is literally right across the street from Rutgers - Newark, which is completely opposite when it comes to study / party and girls per guy.
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NYC Metro | said by pnh102:said by Chiyo:Why not just setup a private hub or something full of stuff? sheesh I know of a few at some local universites taht were just as good. Had all the biggest, latest stuff people wanted. Don't students actually study anymore? Back in the last millennium when I was an undergrad I must have spent just about all my non-class time working or studying. I guess I just missed out on all the fun. If you go to all of your classes and pay attention, studying isn't really that time consuming... I think more time is spent working on projects and homework. How much time does it take to load up a P2P client and let it download while you're working anyway?
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: BYOI said by Tzale:If you go to all of your classes and pay attention, studying isn't really that time consuming... That was my problem... I had to sleep sometime. I went 4 straight days with no sleep to finish a project... it was a mind-altering experience.
Come to think of it, I haven't pulled an all-nighter for any reason since December of 1998.
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NYC Metro | Re: BYOI said by pnh102:said by Tzale:If you go to all of your classes and pay attention, studying isn't really that time consuming... That was my problem... I had to sleep sometime. I went 4 straight days with no sleep to finish a project... it was a mind-altering experience. Come to think of it, I haven't pulled an all-nighter for any reason since December of 1998. Yep.... Same problem here. Never had to go for 4 days straight, but I have worked 30+ hours straight on programming projects that were due, with classes in between! If you pay attention in class, you'd be amazed at how easy it is to get an A....
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This kind of reminds me of that essay I wrote for a Skeptics society when I was a kid. I did a survey to see how people's beliefs in supernatural phenomenon changed as they aged. I made sure that my conclusions were in line with what a skeptics society would believe (that people believed less in the supernatural as they matured). I wound up winning honorable mention in the contest and won $25.
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Hooksett, NH | Re: Oh brother ahh but it's not the downloads thats get you busted.
it's the sharing part thats gets you busted.
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kudos:1 | VPNs Hasn't anyone heard of VPNs?
"Hey, I'm just backing up my 500 gig hard drive to a online backup storage provider"
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1 edit | So... QUIZ: T or F | Sharing copyrighted content is illegal.
STUDENT: T
QUIZ: T or F | You could be fined a bajillion dollars for downloading Super Freak by Rick James.
STUDENT: T
QUIZ: T or F | I obey all laws.
STUDENT: T
QUIZ: T or F | I answered every question on this quiz honestly, and without deception.
STUDENT: T
Err.... Riiiiight. This is going to work, how? Proving they're not ignorant of their actions!? Last I checked, "ignorance of the law" is not a legal defense already. So, the point of these are... again? Also, that's all these people in college need... MORE quizzes!  | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | what happened to the mix tape? sure i wasnt anywhere near college age in the 80s when the mix tape was big but i knew they existed. im thinking today with devices like the iPod there must be an easy way to mimic the mix tape and not leave the same trail as P2P. and i doubt campus police setup stings to stop physical mix media swapping.
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It would take 60 hours to cover all copyright bologni.
I do not think 6 hours will hack it. 60 hours are more like it if all of the copyright rules are discussed. For example does the course cover copyright laws that were set up just to set different fees for playing the same copyrighted material under different circumstances: