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Comments on news posted 2008-05-21 12:21:40: A Comcast insider tells me that Sarasota, Florida should begin seeing DOCSIS 3.0 gear and faster 50Mbps speeds starting next month. The company is in the process of installing DOCSIS 3.0 in the market now to help them do combat with FiOS. ..

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ptrowski
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Didn't they already announce this?

Is this just the same news?


Chiyo
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Pricing

I wonder if the price will remain the same? its $150 in minneapolis but we don't have FiOS we have Qwest and Qwest will never get those speeds.

So will it be cheaper for FL residents to get the 50 meg package seeing as they have to battle FiOS and UVerse.
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reply to ptrowski
Re: Didn't they already announce this?

Comcast South Florida wandered off the reservation, issuing a press release last March saying they'd be upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0, but it lacked market or timeline specifics.


ptrowski
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Thanks Carl, I remember they were saying it was going to happen. Thanks for the clarification!


fatmanskinny
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Approaching caps much faster! Now that's COMCASTIC!

Yawn. In reality, is anything "unlimited"?


ztmike
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Upload speed?

I knew they were going to go with Florida..with that leaked announcement.

My only question..Will the upload remain the same at 5meg, being that there are now docsis 3 modems out (Arris modems now even)

I hope Chicago ain't to far behind..but at $150 month..you can count me out.
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EPS

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Competition

So now we get to see the long-awaited DOCSIS3 vs. FiOS... be interesting to see what that means, whether Verizon will be forced to ratchet their speeds up a notch (come on, 100mbps is possible isn't it?) or drop prices (hahahahahahaha, like that's going to happen) to compete.

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reply to Chiyo
Re: Pricing

Agreed. Comcast can get away charging $150 in Minneapolis/St Paul due to Quest. But that price is going to be a bit out of step with the market in Florida, unless they're looking mostly for PR gains and not actual subscriber gains.

It's a step forward in any case, but with caps coming, Comcast's abuse risk is limited (especially compared to Verizon's 15Mbps upstream plans) so they should have room to be able to price aggressively with FIOS. I can't imagine most stockholders are happy with this, so we'll see.


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reply to ztmike
Re: Upload speed?

said by ztmike See Profile :

I hope Chicago ain't to far behind..but at $150 month..you can count me out.
If you* aren't willing/able to pay for it, what difference does it make?

* I mean you in the majority of users sense, not just you individually.

xxTRAGEDYxx

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Re: Competition

^^^AGREED^^^ it'll be nice to see a real good competition race for customers. Although, I belive Verizon will win..


tshirt
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said by EPS See Profile :

So now we get to see the long-awaited DOCSIS3 vs. FiOS... be interesting to see what that means, whether Verizon will be forced to ratchet their speeds up a notch (come on, 100mbps is possible isn't it?) or drop prices (hahahahahahaha, like that's going to happen) to compete.
I don't understand why anyone believes any of these higher tiers are going to get cheaper, other than short term promos.
in 5-10 years once fios and DOCSIS 3 are fully deployed, you MIGHT see occasional price wars, but the standard rates will be higher than ever.

EPS

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reply to xxTRAGEDYxx
Well, Comcast has a big advantage in deployment- they already have lines going to houses, it's a matter of upgrading the equipment at either end- VZ has to build everything from the ground up. I don't know how much FiOS is deployed in Verizon Florida's areas, but I doubt it's 100% yet.. and once you've gotten 50mbps from Comcast, when Verizon starts deploying in your area it's not as alluring...

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Re: Approaching caps much faster! Now that's COMCASTIC!

Who said unlimited?

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reply to EPS
Re: Competition

The lower speed bundles are where the promotions will be at. Expect all out pricing war on those entry level packages once Uverse hit some areas. The upper speeds you can pretty much forget about any type of price battle.
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BSD24
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reply to ztmike
Re: Upload speed?

said by ztmike See Profile :

I knew they were going to go with Florida..with that leaked announcement.

My only question..Will the upload remain the same at 5meg, being that there are now docsis 3 modems out (Arris modems now even)

I hope Chicago ain't to far behind..but at $150 month..you can count me out.
tshirt - no with DOCSIS 3.0 there is much higher bandwidth. Comcast is still testing it. It is capable of providing at the least 300Mbps Down. I know the Upload speed is planned (probably after a year maybe of a launch) to be available to be changed to 50Mbps Up with Docsis 3.0, and maybe even higher as more testing is done. Same thing happened when Fios was released for the first time in my area. They have changed their Down and Up speed combonations about 5 times. 50Mbps down is alot.

I loved having 20Mbps Down 5Mbps up with Fios before. But Verizon's Customer Service is never there, you have to wait 3 hrs before reaching a rep (I finished watching a movie on demand before rep answered), billing is only opened at certain times and their automated system likes to mis-route everyone just about everytime you call. You end up at DSL support which Verizon can't handle, you get a recording saying they are too busy to handle your call at this time, and to try your call again later. I will never switch back to Verizon again!


BSD24
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reply to EPS
Re: Competition

said by EPS See Profile :

Well, Comcast has a big advantage in deployment- they already have lines going to houses, it's a matter of upgrading the equipment at either end- VZ has to build everything from the ground up. I don't know how much FiOS is deployed in Verizon Florida's areas, but I doubt it's 100% yet.. and once you've gotten 50mbps from Comcast, when Verizon starts deploying in your area it's not as alluring...
I agree. And Comcast already has Fiber to the Node technology. If they ever reached some sort of limit they could then just extend the Fiber lines all the way to the house, with out too much cost compared to having to run Fiber lines from start to finish (in Verizon's case with Fios). Also is why Verizon sold their Fios system in ME/VT. Comcast has a larger Fiber foot-print than Verizon will for a while.

I am still debating on whether Comcast should really switch from Hybrid-Fiber-Coax to FTTH. But it wouldn't be too hard for them to do it, although then again with prices of everything going up including gas they probably won't do it anytime soon.

ossito16

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Why the high prices?

I don't understand the justification of the high prices other than they feel they can get away with it. What resources are being used up faster internet speeds? Other than electrons and photons flying around, what else is there?
Higher hard drive capacity actually requires more "physical" space so there are resources used up to get that space. Does comcast have to pay someone also for the bandwidth they use.

Ammler
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reply to EPS
Re: Competition

AT&T is now going to painfully realize how short sighted they were in deploying U-verse.

Look for U-verse to get a dramatic "Upgrade" in the future.


jarablue
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Oh well

In other news, Charter sits on 16 meg otherwise known as 5 meg in areas that are not upgraded till the year 2016. When asked why they are not upgrading their network to match the times and overwhelming stress put on their network, Charter responded..."because that costs money" and "we're not making enough of NebuAD, not that we would use that money for anything other then shit deadwood managment in Charter but..."

Can't wait till Charter get's 50 meg. I'll be in a wheelchair by then but it will be cool anyways to max it out and get 19 megabit out of the 50 they advertise then.


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Speed vs Caps

What difference can super speed make as long as there are secret up/download caps?
Those who will benefit will just hit their "termination for excessive use/abuse" faster.
And for the rest, does getting something a minute or two faster really make that much of a difference?

Sorry, except for some limited business/institutions, I just see it in the same light as the 180mph position on my car speedometer... unless billing by download volume is their real unspoken priority.
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