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@bellsouth.net
| old ways I wish people would make music like they did during the Great Depression. People made music to entertain other people, then someone offered one guy millions of dollars and that's what most music is made for now.
Who was the first guy who felt he was entitled to millions of dollars for his music? | |
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DeTechManz
@ameritech.net
| We LOST our Freedom of Speech already! ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE SUCKERS! WE ARE ALREADY CHINA!
WE LOST OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH ALREADY!
Read this law ... »www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/···00-.html
Sound familiar? This is a US LAW passed in 2006! Sound like China yet??
We are all bending over while the elite powerful few ensure there are so many lays, we are nothing but "worker bees" slaves where the only LEGAL thing to do is WORK for this country, PAY for this country, GIVE YOUR LIFE for this country, then DIE !
STOP IT NOW PEOPLE! RAISE HELL AND WAKE THIS PR*CKS UP! | |
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jrobert69
How High?
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join:2001-05-19
Rochester, NH | Re: We LOST our Freedom of Speech already! Has this been tested in court yet? Clearly this law violates the constitution.
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
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| cubit »www.cs.cornell.edu/~bwong/cubit/
removes the need for pirate bay by making torrents keywords completely decentirliused
no longer a need for the pirate bay instead there will be a new pirate bay that is a p2p network which you can serch for the files or content you want | |
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envoid
join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA | Re: cubit sounds like eMule's KAD network. and its other people which allows corruption and misleading torrents. and spam. | |
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comcast_customer
@accelnet.net
| Honest question to ANYONE that has ever used P2P... I want an honest response -
really and truly - what exactly is the VALUE of a few favorite notes you hear on your loudspeakers or headset from your favorite singer for 2-3 minutes in a row?
really and truly - what exactly is the VALUE to you of a few billion pixels flying around on the screen, giving you temporary excitement while watching the latest Hollywood release on your big 52" LCD?
Beyond the temporary fix/high - do you REALLY consider music or videos _VALUABLE_ in the same way you consider FOOD or GOOD FRIENDS/COMPANY or YOUR SON/DAUGHTER's WELL BEING valuable?
I personally don't consider any of it valuable - so I've stopped buying it, or if I can get it for cheap (netflix), then I get it at 9/month for a single rental. Or I rent my music for next to nothing per month...
But is MUSIC and VIDEO really VALUABLE? And who says it is?
Why doesn't someone help those talented artists AVOID greedy distributors by publishing their artwork on the Internet by not taking 13 of the 15 dollars they charge per CD? | |
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nitecourt
join:2004-10-19
Erie, PA | First.. Maybe they should pass a law instead making unauthorized commercial email illegal so it will cut down the amount of spam. Oh wait, they already did that. | |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
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| Re: First.. If this "Pirate Bay killer" law is as effective as the (You)
CAN-SPAM act was at stopping spam, then the pirates have
absolutely nothing to worry about.
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Crazybaldheads
@comcast.net | Hey were... America, The police of the world. | |
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nevtxjustin
join:2006-04-18
Dallas, TX
| "Iternational trade agreement" provision So if some radical regime on the other side of the world demanded U.S. Netziens to stop using PGP tools...Where is our national sovereignty?
The cost for CALEA alone about broke us, now we'll have yet another government required process to purchase and maintain. | |
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Dryvlyne
Far Beyond Driven
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join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH | Anyone remember... the phrase "New World Order" coined by the first President Bush in his State of the Union address. It's almost here. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T Yahoo
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·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| Re: Anyone remember... A new World Order!
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlcvJjRvT7c
This one has some awesome pictures and stuff to go with the song: (Please just enjoy the music and think about the images... Don't get the feathers all ruffled over the Bush Hitler stuff, please....)
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-G9pIn8TaA
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TheMG
join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
1 edit | They are completely off-track... Once again, the industry fails to see the real source of the problem: lack of easily obtainable and reasonably priced quality content.
Cracking down on piracy is going to go nowhere, they are only losing more money. The trick is to give the consumers what they want. Do that, and your profits go through the roof. Funny how that works, eh? | |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: They are completely off-track... quote:
Once again, the industry fails to see the real source of the problem: lack of easily obtainable and reasonably priced quality content.
Does that really matter? If the price is to high do not buy.
Industry sells nothing making nothing and eventually adjusts their prices or goes out of business.
Quality is bad do not buy.
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The trick is to give the consumers what they want.
So you are saying if the consumer is not given what they want it is okay to steal it?
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join:2007-09-04
Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
| Re: They are completely off-track... You missed the point completely. My point is, if they adjust their prices even more, maybe they can get EVEN MORE people to buy, and furthermore increase their profits.
It's not a simple game of supply & demand. The supply is whatever they want it to be. The demand goes with the quality and the price.
I'm not saying it would completely stop piracy, not a chance, but it would certainly reduce it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks $20-$30 for a DVD is completely ridiculous. | |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31 | Re: They are completely off-track... Obviously I asked you a question so it is not a matter of missing your point but asking for clarification which you have done now.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Line up for the Chip in your Hand & Forehead! ... Seriously.
I mean who cannot see this coming?
Will the Internet become the chain to restrain the citizenry? | |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | One Question: Quis custodiet ipsos custodiet?
i.e. Who will guard the guards? | |
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SiliconBandit
@mts.net
| Politics, money and power "We make use of a service already existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals."
If they want to stop the trade, then they will need to take the whole world back fifty years.
This is what a generation (has it been that long already?) will do. | |
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jj_frap
join:2003-12-15
·Bell Sympatico
| Since these assholes like fascism so much... Why not sent them back to time and get them locked away in Hitler's concentration camps and laugh as they starve to death begging for mercy. That's the cost of not respecting our fundamental freedoms. This should apply doubly for people who claim to be socialists while advocating this corporatist anti-freedom garbage. | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden |  Bend Over Constitution!
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Rain
@verizon.net
|  Focusing on Art.
An artist starts loosing their shine as soon as they go after the money. This is an ironclad rule of life, as other desires wax, the desire for pure art wanes.
If anyone is interested in making something new and unheard of, they must focus 100% on this and not get caught up in too many long debates.
Not to say that all these debates are irrelevant, it is just that the artist/musician is not interested in continuing them, they've got work to do! | |
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envoid
join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA
| has anyone read the leaked doc?? It's like they realized if they have any specifics in these things they run into limitations so why not keep it open-ended.
This treaty is aimed at and more about the illegal import/exports of faked warez and the creation of such abroad. Probably brought about from that bust they did in Cali with all the fake MS products. However, it's far-reaching and more terribly vague than the DMCA or Homeland Security Act put together and can easily be applied to youtube uploads and sharing of tv episodes that aren't available any other way. I don't see how some of this treaty could even be legal and enforceable in the US. But I guess they'll ensue fear and make people believe they can do this...
Now how the hell do i get off this planet?? | |
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A Government flim flam?
Let's see. The government claims that the proposed law will protect the media content industry from piracy. Is the real purpose of the law to prevent citizens from posting clips of news stories and other copyrighted material to criticize the government? What our citizens really need is a broader definition of fair use. Posting a clip of Bill O'Reilly going postal while closing Entertainment Tonight Nine Years ago, on YouTube is not piracy. The average citizen does not have the resources or can get access to sources of news that can support their position on matters critical to them. I guess the Constitution supports only freedom of the official press. 
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