nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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ye gods, this can't stand - it's a pro-consumer ruling.
quick, call Seymor Cash (R-BigBiz) and Ivanna Bribe (D-Demforsale)and tell them to got on some legislation to fix what these activist courts have done! |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
|  Word of warning for those who want to start a class action
The USSC made "no class action lawsuit" provisions in cell phone contracts non-enforceable ONLY in states that prohibit them. Not all states prohibit having a "no class action lawsuit" provision in a contract. So, if you are contemplating starting up one, the lawyer in YOUR state will need to investigate state law on the issue.
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mlundin
join:2001-03-27
Lawrence, KS | Yay!
Score one for the little guy! Not over though... still a long way to go. |
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL | No, score one for gold-diggers and frivolous lawsuits. |
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
·RCN CABLE
| Castro, was he right?
For years I have been reading DSLr forums. It seems these corporations get worse every month in the things they do to squeeze every dollar from the people. I can definitely see why companies need to be nationalized if they get to big. A "no class action" clause should not be allowed EVER. Why do we need laws against exploitation by the companies? Also, the lawyers should not be allowed to profit so much for pushing class action lawsuits. Any money won should go back to customers and maybe the school systems. |
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texans20
Weapons of Masturbation
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join:2002-09-28
Texas!
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Re: Yay!
said by quatrix  :No, score one for gold-diggers and frivolous lawsuits. Exactly, most class action lawsuits do nothing but drive the prices we pay up. I get several notifications per year of me being involved somehow in some stupid class action suit, and I have yet to get anything worth while. The latest class action was with some credit monitoring thing I signed up for a couple of years ago, all I get is one free month of service. However, rest assured, the lawyers involved received millions of dollars in compensation.
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texans20
Weapons of Masturbation
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join:2002-09-28
Texas!
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Re: Castro, was he right?
said by ossito16 :For years I have been reading DSLr forums. It seems these corporations get worse every month in the things they do to squeeze every dollar from the people. I can definitely see why companies need to be nationalized if they get to big. A "no class action" clause should not be allowed EVER. Why do we need laws against exploitation by the companies? Also, the lawyers should not be allowed to profit so much for pushing class action lawsuits. Any money won should go back to customers and maybe the school systems. Move to North Korea, every corporation there is nationalized.
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | Time for Plan B
"In short, such fine print bans on class action participation remain intact if your state laws prohibit them."
So clearly the next course of action by these companies is to fire up the great lobby machine and have these laws changed. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| reply to texans20
Re: Yay!
said by texans20 :said by quatrix :No, score one for gold-diggers and frivolous lawsuits. Exactly, most class action lawsuits do nothing but drive the prices we pay up. I get several notifications per year of me being involved somehow in some stupid class action suit, and I have yet to get anything worth while. The latest class action was with some credit monitoring thing I signed up for a couple of years ago, all I get is one free month of service. However, rest assured, the lawyers involved received millions of dollars in compensation. So do we just allow these corporations to walk all over us?
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ender7074
join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO
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Re: Castro, was he right?
Wow. Just wow. Nationalize all corporations? That has got to be one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Look at such places where that has happened or is happening right now. Former Soviet Union, N. Korea, Cuba, and thats just a start. Their economies were/are terrible and the people are crushed at each step. Just a horrible idea. |
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viperlmw
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join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| reply to hopeflicker
Re: Yay!
said by hopeflicker :said by texans20 :said by quatrix :No, score one for gold-diggers and frivolous lawsuits. Exactly, most class action lawsuits do nothing but drive the prices we pay up. I get several notifications per year of me being involved somehow in some stupid class action suit, and I have yet to get anything worth while. The latest class action was with some credit monitoring thing I signed up for a couple of years ago, all I get is one free month of service. However, rest assured, the lawyers involved received millions of dollars in compensation. So do we just allow these corporations to walk all over us? That's what 'free market'ers seem to want. Many fail to realize that the idea behind a 'class action' is not necessarily to realize large damage awards for the members of the class, but to provide large enough punitive awards to the class as a whole to deter the corporation from doing wrong/illegal/damaging activities. |
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texans20
Weapons of Masturbation
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Texas!
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Re: Castro, was he right?
said by ender7074 :Wow. Just wow. Nationalize all corporations? That has got to be one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Look at such places where that has happened or is happening right now. Former Soviet Union, N. Korea, Cuba, and thats just a start. Their economies were/are terrible and the people are crushed at each step. Just a horrible idea. Yes but it fits the lazy socialist well. See, the lazy socialist generally tends to be a loser in life, especially economically speaking. In America, one can work hard and become well off. In countries like Cuba, though, regardless of how hard you work or how marketable your skills are you are worth as much as everyone else. The lazy socialist would rather bring everyone down to his or her level instead of working hard to gain new skills or polish current skills to make him or her more marketable.
I have yet to meet anyone doing well in life with extreme socialist ideas such as nationalizing corporations. They tend to be unemployed, undereducated, and the type of personality that blames everything negative on everyone else. They hang out at coffee houses on weekday afternoons when they should be working.
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| reply to viperlmw
Re: Yay!
I, for one, do not care if i was to receive a small $$$ amount from a class action suit. I would just hope that a suit alone would change a corporations business practice. If lawyers win big bucks, so what. As long as the shady business practice ends.
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| And that's the point of class action suits. In very rare cases are the actual complainants looking for large damage awards. In most cases class actions are launched and prosecuted with the understanding that the claimants will get little other than a promise of behavior change by the corporation while the lawyers get a nice payout for taking the risk.
Do I agree with every class action? No, but in the vast majority of cases they are used the advantage of consumers in a system where government is no longer protecting consumer rights. |
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| reply to texans20
Re: Castro, was he right?
It's not socialism, it's called communism. A certain very famous SOCIALIST wrote a book about communism called animal farm.
Socialism is about a society creating a social safety net where people at the bottom have at least basic needs accounted for during the toughest of times. Please don't equate socialism and communism. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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Re: Yay!
Sure, because anytime anything other than a multi-billion dollar corp stands to gain any kind of money, it's a bad thing. The U.S. should just allow corps to run amok and do precisely whatever benefits their bottom line regardless of laws or who gets hurt. It's just the "gold diggers," after all filing "frivolous" suits.  |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
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·AT&T Southwest
| reply to quatrix
Generally, for a class action to occur, it can hardly be frivolous. Now, the results to the class members are usually frivolous, but the guilty company is usually ordered to change it's evil ways.
Just don't expect to get rich off one, unless you're a lawyer.
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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| reply to rahvin112
Re: Castro, was he right?
said by rahvin112 :Please don't equate socialism and communism. The only real difference is that communists shoot people that try to leave.
Remember communist Russia called themselves the Soviet Socialist Republic.
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to rahvin112
Bah, the term has meant the same thing as Communist as long as it's also had the meaning that you're trying to declare is the sole meaning... The USSR, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, for example. |
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woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
·EarthLink
·DSL EXTREME
| hmmmm....
Why is it that whenever there is something pro consumer, it always turns into a "scum sucking only lawyers are going to make money and we all will pay in the end for it " the trolls and corporate "shills" seem to always take a pro consumer as a way to vent on the corporations behalf. If the corporations weren't such greedy a$$ holes, this wouldn't be an issue. Yes I understand they are subsidizing the free or almost free phones.
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