Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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| This would seem to be a windfall for
the cable co's. No more cable box inventory needed if it spreads to other manufacturers and as far as broken and defective boxes..that would be a thing of the past and would shift that responsibility to consumer owned equipment.
Sounds like a real money saver.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| said by Rick  :Sounds like a real money saver. On both sides of the process. This also means the consumer doesn't pay cable box rental fees or have to deal with another device to hook up to their entertainment systems. It's a win/win if it's done right (and nobody exploits the savings with trumped up fees). |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | It also means no more possibly ugly looking box on top of your TV/in your cabinet or somewhere as well, so you'll have more space as well for other things. |
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
 ·Comcast
| Finally!
They should of done this a while ago! Big question though, will they charge us per tv to use the darn things... like they do now with cable boxes... "Oh it has to register on our network, and we charge a small $3 per month per tv registration fee"... something like that I can smell coming |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Technology for a new revenue stream
All this is is a promise by Sony to take all the problems with the existing cable card and try to solve them with a new version. "Hey, we'll put them into new TVs."
Two-way communication. For PPV. That's good, right? Nielsen ratings data. That's got to be good, too. 
I acknowledge there must be a move forward. But at what cost? |
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DavePR
@dslextreme.com
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djrobx
| Where's the DVR?
I don't plan on giving up my DVR. (I don't anticipate replacing my TV anytime soon, for that matter). Will everyone who buys a TV have to buy this cable TV circuitry, even if they don't plan to use it? |
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Shrapnel64
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join:2001-01-24
Hayes, VA
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| reply to Rick
Re: This would seem to be a windfall for
If TV Manufacturer's were smart, they would make the box sort of like a Cable Card -- where it is replaceable if something should go wrong with it. It would be pretty sad if after a year of using the TV the built-in cable box device died, and you had to buy another $2,000 TV. |
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MichaelWacey
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join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA | Any chance FiOS will adopt this?
Is there any chance that FiOS will adopt this? Or, is it a Cable only solution? |
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roc5955
Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to neufuse
Re: Finally!
Please,
You KNOW that the cable companies are going to nickel and dime us to death with additional fees. Though they will probably be less than that of "renting" a cable box, there will be some sort of fee charged. I would bet the mortgage on it!
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handydave
join:2000-12-14
Totowa, NJ | They will still charge a fee:
"Under the new system, customers will still need to get a cable card from their provider,Under the new system, customers will still need to get a cable card from their provider," |
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fcisler
Premium
join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY
| No Thanks
What about my DVR? Media Center PC?
I'd rather they just started selling everyone the cable card device for the PC. Instead, I have to buy a pre-approved media center PC. Don't have the money or want for one. I'm happy with mine.
I guess it's a good thing for someone like my mom. You couldn't rip the DVR out of my dads hands  |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to DavePR
Re: Where's the DVR?
Err... the story plainly identifies this as a Sony deal. If other manufacturers eventually get around to doing the same thing, so be it, but that's a long way off. |
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walliser
join:2002-01-27
Philadelphia, PA
1 edit | reply to fcisler
Re: No Thanks
I don't think the cable cos would ever want to put a stranglehold on my TV, now would they? Nah, they wouldn't... 
I think I'll keep my cablebox hooked up to my HTPC, especially with the new crop of HD over composite capture cards. |
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Comcablrtl
join:2003-10-25
Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to jester121
Re: Where's the DVR?
Panasonic should be releasing a tru2way TV this year as well. Samsung is also working on getting a model ready for T2W. There will be a fee for using this type of TV. It will be something along the lines of a digital access fee...not sure on the amount per month (possibly $4.99). There are many benefits for the customer with this technology, but like anything else new, early-adopters will most likely pay a premium for TVs featuring T2W technology. |
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person9998541
@il.us
| reply to SRFireside
Re: This would seem to be a windfall for
said by SRFireside :said by Rick :Sounds like a real money saver. On both sides of the process. This also means the consumer doesn't pay cable box rental fees or have to deal with another device to hook up to their entertainment systems. It's a win/win if it's done right (and nobody exploits the savings with trumped up fees). They will not have to pay rental fees but they will have to pay massive service fees for anything that goes wrong or the cable prices will suddenly jump more than the usual 10% a year that is definitely beyond the inflation already. |
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socrplyr
join:2008-03-25
Canton, OH
| How it will work...
Several posts here truly fail to see how this will work.
First off this will use CableCard 2.0. This is how the cable companies will keep track of your devices and make up for the lack of cable box/dvr revenue.
Second some TVs will have the circuitry and some won't (cable boxes/dvrs won't go away completely). Cheap TVs will not come with it so they can stay cheap.
Third your dvr isn't going anywhere. Cable companies will continue to support the boxes that they are leasing you. Also, their boxes will probably interface just like any tv and thus they can just order any tru2way box they want and pop a cable card in it. This works for third parties as well (you can bet your pennies that Tivo's Series4 will be tru2way and that sony will come out with a standalone dvr as well). |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | reply to DavePR
Re: Where's the DVR?
Exactly. Great idea, but there needs to be an eSata port for DVR recording for it to be of much use to high-end customers.
It's so unfortunate for consumers that Hollywood killed the central DVR concept. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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| reply to socrplyr
Re: How it will work...
I don't think anyone is worried about their DVR "going anywhere". It's just this "built-in" technology is worthless to a lot of us if we still have no recording ability.
I'd honestly rather have a set with dumb clear QAM + recording than Tru2way. Just keep the drive external so it keeps set costs down and makes the drive easy to replace if it fails. |
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Kareeser
hm?
Premium
join:2006-07-18
Hamilton, ON | Two-way, eh?
Two-way capabilities?
First thing I thought of when I read that was the TV from Nineteen Eighty-Four |
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Jafo232
You Can't Spell Democrat Without Rat.
Premium
join:2002-10-17
Boonville, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to person9998541
Re: This would seem to be a windfall for
Could it possibly lead to at least one less remote? Oh please, that makes it worth it by leaps and bounds..
Now, if they would just make a deal with DirecTV and Dish Network!
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