CylonRed
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-06
Bloom County
| And I DON'T want to see them
whining when they don't have any other choice but cable internet or WiFi in the press or on this web site. They make their bed and they have to lie in it and shut up about it.
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dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
 ·CenturyLink
| Ok...
Do people want the service or not? You can't have your cake and eat it too, there is always a downside, and an upside. Take your pick. Sheesh.
If it were me, give me as many as you want as long as I benefit from it. 
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probboy
join:2008-01-10
Natick, MA
1 edit | Score one for the great state of Connecticut.
Do you own a home? These monstrosities ruin property values. AT&T could spend a little bit more to bury the boxes, in the process generating a ton of goodwill. Their belief that they can do whatever they want is ticking off a lot of people.
We'll see what AT&T does to try to counter this move. They'll probably complain to their buddies at the FCC and Congress and get some sort of federal regulation passed saying they can do whatever they want. |
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AGBell
@cox.net | Metal mansoleums
I'll bet the phones in legal affairs Bedminster are ringing off the hooks. |
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dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
·CenturyLink
| reply to probboy
Re: Ok...
You may very well be right about the complaining, but from what I understand, this very large boxes, much like any other electrical equipment, need air flow, otherwise they get too hot. The company isn't going to spend money on these and then have to replace them shortly thereafter because of some equipment failure, among other possible reasons. Property value does matter, but really, it's only reducing the value because people think it's an eye sore, and they are not realizing the advantages. People want things all the time, but aren't willing to make sacrifices to get them. Everyone wants a free ride in this world, guess what? It doesn't exist. It's only what YOU make it to be.
Thank you.
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
Premium
join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
clubs:
 ·Cox HSI
·World Lynx
1 edit | reply to dsldude08
said by dsldude08  :Do people want the service or not? You can't have your cake and eat it too, there is always a downside, and an upside. Take your pick. Sheesh. If it were me, give me as many as you want as long as I benefit from it. It won't hurt AT&T a bit to take a little more time making the VRAD installs look good. They should have to work with the property owners to make the install as low impact as possible. If nothing else, it would create a bit of good will between the two parties. If someone walked up to my place and said "This box is going on your lawn, no ifs, ands, or buts", I would be a bit p*ssed. If they come to my door and asked "where would be the best place to put this?", I wouldn't mind so much...
I don't think AT&T would like someone coming to the front lawn of their corporate headquarters and setting down a toolshed or above-ground swimming pool in the middle of their nicely manicured front lawn that they paid someone big bucks to take care of.... |
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JayMan
Whoot
Premium
join:2002-06-05
Earth
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to probboy
The only problem with putting them underground is the vault they would need to make would need to be at least 1.5 to 2 times the size of the cabinet so there is room to get a person in it and have the panels open.
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xxTRAGEDYxx
join:2008-03-14
Kannapolis, NC
·Windstream
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to probboy
so why aren't these same ppl and you complaining about power transformers??? they're in alot of front yards. I know they're not as big...but... honestly, as much as homeowners hate it, AT&T should put them wherever they want. well. almost.
Have you ever heard of RIGHT-OF-WAY?? EAVESEMENT?? I'm not sure bout CT, but in most states, technically, you don't really have a say-so as to what as far as utilities, is put into the 1st 5-10ft. of your front yard. Thats what the right-of-way is. But leave it to a Liberal state such as CT, to come up with some CRAP like this!! |
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goalieskates
join:2004-09-12
Knoxville, TN
·Knology
·Comcast
| this needs to happen
I can think of places here where some of these cabinets block the view of intersections and have caused a number of wrecks. Face it, not everyone drives a monster truck and can see over the things.
The idea that they can place these things on private property without warning is insane. They can and should be placed cooperatively.
And no, not everyone wants their service, nor do they want to host these suckers because someone they don't know does. |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17 | reply to dsldude08
Re: Ok...
Most communities have more appropriate areas for this equipment than on a home's front lawn. |
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dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
·CenturyLink
| reply to N10Cities
I don't think AT&T would like someone coming to the front lawn of their corporate headquarters and setting down a toolshed or above-ground swimming pool in the middle of their nicely manicured front lawn that they paid someone big bucks to take care of.... 
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dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI | reply to goalieskates
Re: this needs to happen
That scenario is obviously dangerous and would be an issue. I agree with this when placed in that perspective. |
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Attack Gypsy
join:2007-05-10
Bridgeport, CT | reply to xxTRAGEDYxx
Re: Ok...
My home in CT does. Its right on my deed.
Just depends on the area. We still have some pretty rural areas, with real working farms. |
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skrupowies
join:2002-08-22
Wallingford, CT
clubs:
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Shouldn't make a difference to AT&T
This ruling by our esteemed Attorney Genital, oops, General shouldn't really make any difference. AT&T already sends out abutter notices whenever something is going on a pole or in the right-of-way. If the homeowner complains within the required time-frame AT&T will do its best to find another suitable location. If the homeowner doesn't respond within the required time frame and tries to complain afterward - it becomes simply "too bad". |
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jaa
Premium,MVM
join:2000-06-13
·Optimum Online
 ·Vonage
| reply to dsldude08
Re: Ok...
said by dsldude08 :Do people want the service or not? You can't have your cake and eat it too, there is always a downside, and an upside. Take your pick. Sheesh. Nope. Don't want the service, and don't want the box.
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| Stick it to 'em
It's only fair that AT&T pay for independent appraisals showing the value of adjacent property before and after VRAD installation. This appraisal should take into account both the reduced value due to the VRAD's presence and the increased value due to broadband availability.
I would think that a transferable full-ride subscription to whatever AT&T or its successors have to offer, a monthly charge for the current owner for the life of the mortgage (to compensate the current owner for the aesthetic loss), one-time compensation for the appraisal difference, and landscaping service or fees, would be a good place to start negotiations.
If AT&T won't meet the owner's reasonable demands, neighbors who want the service should pay the affected owner or buy the affected house.
All other utilities, including cable, power and gas, should be subject to the same requirement, but since they are already providing service to a lot of people, equipment already in place should be grandfathered.
Around here transformers are pole-mounted or in underground vaults with sidewalk grates. Cable amps are pole-mounted. There are of course traffic signals & control cabinets, but since those are approved by elected officials, they should be exempt.
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to CylonRed
Re: And I DON'T want to see them
Verizon seems to have figured out how to provide next-generation services without scattering prominent giant boxes across the landscape. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FIOS
·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
·MegaPath
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP
| If only they could make them a bit more squat and not white
We have similar boxes for cable in our neighborhood but they're shorter and fatter. Plus they're green so homeowners just plant shrubs around them leaving room for cable techs to access the panels. You don't really notice them unless you're looking for them. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to dsldude08
Re: Ok...
If it means AT&T getting a blank check to tear up anything they want...then no, I don't want the service. |
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booticon
join:2007-07-31
East Lyme, CT | reply to xxTRAGEDYxx
Calm down, young grasshopper. |
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