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Comments on news posted 2008-05-29 10:53:09: Akamai today released their first ever "State of the Internet Report," which covers a number of topics including broadband penetration, broadband speeds, security, and more. ..

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RyanG1
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Rhode Island?

Considering the size of Rhode Island no wonder its in the top rankings...lol.
I also like how on the other chart it says % slower than 256mbps. Typos are fun.

brandon
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Re: Rhode Island?

said by RyanG1:

I also like how on the other chart it says % slower than 256mbps. Typos are fun.
That's not a typo.

tiger72
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Re: Rhode Island?

if it's not a typo, their results are wayyy off and they need to re-examine their data.

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Re: Rhode Island?

said by tiger72:

if it's not a typo, their results are wayyy off and they need to re-examine their data.
How do you figure?

Vamp
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Re: Rhode Island?

said by amarryat:

said by tiger72:

if it's not a typo, their results are wayyy off and they need to re-examine their data.
How do you figure?
So you fall into the 80+ (over 90+ for MA) percent of people that have OVER 256mbps??


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Re: Rhode Island?

said by Vamp:

said by amarryat:

said by tiger72:

if it's not a typo, their results are wayyy off and they need to re-examine their data.
How do you figure?
So you fall into the 80+ (over 90+ for MA) percent of people that have OVER 256mbps??


One chart is showing % of connections over 5mbit, and the other is showing % of connections below 256kbit. Makes sense to me. I guess the m versus the k in 256? I glossed right over that. I guess if that was not a typo, then all those percentages should be about 100!
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What's surprising is that New Jersey which has a higher population density than Rhode Island (2nd in the US) and has the second highest median income of all fifty states, is not even in the top ten for fastest broadband connected states!
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Re: Rhode Island?

said by damox:

What's surprising is that New Jersey which has a higher population density than Rhode Island (2nd in the US) and has the second highest median income of all fifty states, is not even in the top ten for fastest broadband connected states!
.... not all that surprising, believe it or not.

While parts of NJ are incredibly densely packed (here's looking at you Hoboken), there's still a bunch of farmland and forestry. There are still parts of NJ where high speed broadband tops out at 1.5mbit -- or worse.

Surprising, I guess, because Cablevision covers most of NJ, and they offer 15mbit as a standard package with their Optimum Online service.

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Re: Rhode Island?

said by dennismurphy:

...not all that surprising, believe it or not.
I don't think it is that surprising either for a totally different reason. Most New Jerseyites don't use Akamai's crappy Web 2.0 services.

But all seriousness it does say on the report that
quote:
This report will include data gathered across Akamai’s global server network about attack traffic and broadband adoption
Those who usually rely on Akamai's services are business so the title should be The State of Businesses on Internet or The State of Our Best Customers.

Unfortunately there are not allot of large businesses in NJ anymore who need to rely on a top notch global network let alone broadband. And for those pharmaceuticals companies that have not left their offices for foreign shores probably use their own intranet which is more secure.

Delaware on the otherhand is the corporate captital of the US, at least on the east coast.

jbgroup1
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Curious

How is the District of Columbia in both lists?

tenpin784
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Re: Curious

said by jbgroup1:

How is the District of Columbia in both lists?
Cause it can have both 27% faster then 5mb, yet 17% slower then 256K.

Thats only 44% of the population, which falls between 256k and 5mb (if they have interwebs)
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DC is pretty well split between its 4 corners: SE NE NW SW. It's more of an east/west dichotomy but that's the general outline. Southeast DC is very poor, lots of crime, and a general crappy place to be. Northeast/middle is more middle class, and has sporadic availability of services. Parts of northeast approach southeast, though. Central and West are expensive and rich. No FiOS though, even though the Verizon Center is close to all that!

So, the poor and under-served go with dialup. The rich will get the most expensive option available. All that money spent on lobbyists has to go somewhere!

whfsdude
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Re: Curious

Also lots of DC cannot be served by RCN like Northwest as RCN does not have the right-of-way to dig up the streets in historic neighborhoods (eg. Capitol Hill).

FiL
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Re: Curious

When I lived at the Woodner in Columbia Heights, DC, the enire 1500 units were RCN. They've got a biggg lock on NW.

Archivis
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Who cares

Honestly.

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Re: Who cares

these stats are important. they re-affirm that the mid-atlantic and new england are the smartest, most well connected states.

everyone else can go pick our f'in cotton

Mommy52062

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Michigan

Where is Michigan

fAcEtIOUs
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Re: Michigan

said by Mommy52062 :

Where is Michigan
They only list the top and bottom states in the report. Nothing in the middle.

AnonymousPerson

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It is north of Wisconsin and Indiana.

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PDF report attached

See the full report here:

Internet_2008.pdf 1217825 bytes

chd176

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Re: PDF report attached

I'm suprized that Alabama isn't on the list for the slowest. That's kinda odd.
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Re: PDF report attached

It only calculates from % on line. So, Alabama people who do go on-line have good connection. So, it could be just those 10 people all have fast connections

Dogfather
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Pointless statistics

There are plenty who choose price over speed and went for the dirt cheap $15-$20 DSL or Cable lite offerings.

These stats don't tell anything other than who is the up-sell juggernaut.
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Re: Pointless statistics

I agree. It should be what is available to them. Youcan't make someone choose a >2Mb/s connection.
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Bingo. And that's a key point that comes up every time the "I hate this country and we're a third world nation" individuals begin complaining. A majority of consumers simply don't care about throughput. They want to be able to e-mail their family, check their bank account, and surf some good porn. Of which, the $15-20 DSL or cable lite offerings are more than sufficient.
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MA

Hm, I wonder what caused Massachusetts' percentage to fall so much.
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Re: MA

Probably the fact that most of the tech industry here is losing workers at a decent clip.

That coupled with people sick and tired of comcasts current rate hikes.

I know I went to DSL because of this very same reason. Although I got 3/768 from verizon , it's cheaper and doesn't kill my vpn constantly because of thier stupid bit torrent crap.
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DSLReports gets a mention in the report

DSLReports gets a mention in the DDOS section of the report.
Popular broadband Web site DSL Reports was also targeted by a DDoS attack in March 2008. According to an article in The Register(7) the attack traffic was primarily comprised of open-connection requests from a distributed set of IP addresses – at least 1,100 systems were believed to have taken part in the attack.

7 - »www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/19···_attack/

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BinaryXtreme

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NEVADA!

Nevada is spankin' the Net. Only one in or even near the west coast is surprising.
hoersche

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Typo?

On the slowest list, the criteria says "% <256 Mbps". I am guessing they really mean Kbps.

256 Mbps...that would be great!
cyberbeing

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Re: Typo?

Washington State and Virginia top the list of US states with the largest percentage of connections observed at 256
Kbps or below. However, in contrast to the International list, only 21% of Washington’s connections are “slow”.
The connection percentage quickly drops below 20%, as Virginia has the next largest percentage of narrowband
connections, with 18%.
Yep, it's a typo on the image in the PDF.

woody7
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hmmmm....

I live in California, and it isn't in the top ten,go figure ....California does better than most countries yet our broadband sux. I live a city with a mean housing value of 500k + / -,some in the millions, and I only have 2 choices,DSL or Time warner. Half the city is verizon, and half the city is att. att says there isn't a market for their "project" lightspeed, and I am not served by Verizon.go figure.
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cypherstream
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Nice report... not

It's corrupted, dugg, slashdotted, or something?

Better yet, can anyone tell me how PA did?

Edit: nevermind, thanks TKJunkmail for your PDF attachment post.
majortom1029

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hmm

I am guessing Long island and some parts of nyc having cablevision helped with getting ny in the top . Then add the fios deployments into that .

ReVeLaTeD
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Not an accurate measure...

of true saturation.

What I'd like to see is:

- Highest connection speed offered
- Percent of state acreage availability

For example, if 10Mbps is available to 90% of the state, I'd want to see that.

Because if I assume that 1,000,000 households is the total, I can reasonably assume (with some margin of error) that 900,000 households could get that speed.

From there I would want to see:
- Percent of users on less than 1Mbps (in my opinion, that's basically not broadband if you're in this percentile)
- Percent of users on less than 5Mbps
- Percent of users on 10Mbps

When you use all these percentages as hard numbers and compare to other states, it gives you a true picture of which states are really "wired" versus those that get a bad rap because of their population (or lack thereof).

Guspaz
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Re: Not an accurate measure...

I'd agree, to a certain extent. I'm surprised Canada isn't there. That means we have less than 15% of our internet users on 5mbit+ broadband.

Considering that, in Ontario and Quebec (the two most populous provinces), the basic (non-lite) speed for DSL and cable is both 7mbit, that's a bit odd.

I think the most likely thing is that, since DSL is more popular than cable by a decent margin, and Bell just moved from 5mbit to 7mbit, none of those 5mbit customers are getting counted. After all, they say users who ACHIEVED 5mbit or higher. Actual throughput on a 5mbit DSL line is ~4.3mbit, and on cable is slightly under 5. So 5mbit cable/DSL doesn't count as 5mbit to Akamai's stats.

rit56

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More of the same

It seems every three months or so someone comes out with a report giving the US a different ranking. What does one believe?
LumpyDaMoose

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Delaware?!

I was at our other plant in Newark, DE 15 months ago to set up a VPN and couldn't even GET a broadband connection. Slow DSL was sort of available, but we were beyond the 18K' limit. Which they didn't tell me until after I made the trip up there. Comcast wanted something like $50,000 to run a 200' line under existing pavement. Oh, I'm sure it's fast-- they have so few people with broadband there's no reason for it to be slow!
damox
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Washington State has always seemed a bit backwards

I'm not from here, but have lived hear in Washington on and off since 1975, and I've noticed that this state seems to be behind so much of the country in so many things!
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shoan

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Re: Washington State has always seemed a bit backwards

I'm willing to bet that the climb in dial up was from people getting more PC's and finding out that the major ISP's think that they are not profitable to serve. The people are out there in droves that have no broadband. Please don't respond back if you are going to preach about sat. broadband or move to the city you hillbilly's .
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Re: Washington State has always seemed a bit backwards

I'm sure you're right. I guess I'm surprise because Washington is above the U.S. average in population density, and twenty-fifth overall. More surprising, however, are District of Columbia (tops in population density) and Illinois (eleventh in population density)! The only thing I can figure is that both DC and Chicago (which is where I'm from originally) have many poor people who can't afford broadband. States like Wyoming, the Dakota's, New Mexico and Idaho surprise me because they are at the bottom in terms of population density, but didn't make the list of the slowest states.
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Erik

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The thing is, Qwest offers the lowest cost high speed net connection in this state...at 256kbs. Since a lot people use Qwest as their phone service, and if they want an internet connection, they just go with the best priced option offered by the company.
Also, I think it's the cheapest option available if you want a high speed connection without having to bundle it with other services and you aren't a Qwest customer...

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You know what I almost hope for?

I hope some day Russia starts beating us in broadband speeds and broadband penetration because thats one thing you could really use to throw in the face of every person in government.

I can just see it now I'll just scream

"The damn commies have better internet than us!"

And the US army will start laying fiber down my street just to catch up.

O what a world that would be.
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Re: You know what I almost hope for?

china will beat Russia in broadband

china is already more wired then Russia

delawareanon

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Stay away from lower delaware

Im pretty sure that number for delaware is for the upper part of the state where its comcast and fios the lower percent is most likely medicom at the lower end of the state so beware.

WA Resident

@Level3.net

WA state has 100Mbps Fiber!

Hmm, actually here in WA we have had 100Mbps all fiber connections straight to the home since a few years ago and all for under $40 bucks per month!

The county PUDs (at least 3 that i know of)have built out and continue to build out the fiber optic network connecting businesses and homes alike.
They sell access rights to whatever ISP wants to offer service. Most ISPs offer lower speeds but at least one is offering 100Mbps but they have a cap of 25Gb transfer per month limit. This particular ISP had no caps a couple of years ago.

The next county across the river offers lower speeds but they also offer TV programming as well as phone service over fiber.

The particular county where i live offers fiber optics, high speed wireless internet (where fiber isn't available) and soon to come, TV programming.

I still don't have fiber right here but it's only a matter of weeks since they are almost finished laying all the fiber down and getting it working.

»www.dccn.net/

»www.localtelonline.com/drf.htm

»www.gcpud.org/zipp.htm

»fiber.chelanpud.org/euedu/

»www.donobi.com/services/fiber/grant_county/


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