chronoss2008
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join:2008-03-29 | Only in QUEBEC
UM this is only IN QUEBEC
NOT the rest of canada , seems no other lawyers have any balls or any rich kids money to doante to the BS bell has put people though..... |
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Devanchya
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join:2003-12-09
Ajax, ON
 ·Bell Sympatico
| It's only in Quebec, because it's a Civil case, which is not possible outside of Quebec in Canada.
Quebec has a completely different legal system than the rest of Canada and the US.
That's the main reason why most contests are not valid in QC. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ |  Waste of time; lawsuit can't beat legal muscle of Bell
The lawsuit won't get very far - even in Quebec. Bell has too much money and legal muscle for it to succeed. If they have to they will just buy the usual corrupt judges in Quebec. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | reply to Devanchya
Re: Only in QUEBEC
Indeed. Times like these make me proud to be a Quebecker 
The little man stand up to the monopolistic practices of Hell.
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geowil
join:2008-04-20
Laveen, AZ
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1 edit | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Waste of time; lawsuit can't beat legal muscle of Bell
said by TKJunkMail  :The lawsuit won't get very far - even in Quebec. Bell has too much money and legal muscle for it to succeed. If they have to they will just buy the usual corrupt judges in Quebec. what ever happened to honest to god politics? it makes me ill to think how judges and DA's and etc can be bought. guess it just goes to show how morally bankrupt the world is these days.
then again, isnt that illegal? i know somewhere on this planet it has to be xD. |
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Kardinal
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said by TKJunkMail :The lawsuit won't get very far - even in Quebec. Bell has too much money and legal muscle for it to succeed. If they have to they will just buy the usual corrupt judges in Quebec. This is the same province who's judges just re-wrote the interpretation of law (in the opinion of the majority of legal opinions) with the court of appeal's overturning of a lower court ruling about BCE bondholders and the pending takeover of the company by OTPP. We'll see how the Supreme Court goes on that one, but never underestimate the Quebec court system's ability to interpret the law in new and interesting ways -- it's a bit like the SCOTUS and election results. 
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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Re: Only in QUEBEC
said by Devanchya :It's only in Quebec, because it's a Civil case, which is not possible outside of Quebec in Canada. Quebec has a completely different legal system than the rest of Canada and the US. Only for civil cases, not criminal cases. Criminal code is uniform throughout Canada (which is a hell of a lot better than what we have here in the United States). The rest of Canada and the United States is derived from English Common Law. Quebec is derived from Code Napoléon. |
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TOPDAWG
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join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Waste of time; lawsuit can't beat legal muscle of Bell
Ever time this stuff in Canada is talked about you make a post. Have you ever even lived in Canada? |
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Quake110
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON
2 edits | Only in Québec... as others noted
But it should be interesting because Québec uses the civil law, hence, they are not bound by precedents like in the common law. |
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Quake110
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON
·Velcom
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Re: Waste of time; lawsuit can't beat legal muscle of Bell
said by TKJunkMail :The lawsuit won't get very far - even in Quebec. Bell has too much money and legal muscle for it to succeed. If they have to they will just buy the usual corrupt judges in Quebec. Just a question, have you lived in Québec to make that assumption? |
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Manitobain
@shawcable.net |  reply to geowil
Corrupt Judges?
Harper is trying to get the right wing religious nutcase Vic Toews installed as a judge in Manitoba.
Now...THAT is scary. |
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lrtc
join:2004-06-05
Toronto | Why?
Why just bell I mean rogers does it to? |
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Jackoxs
@telus.net | Fight The Power.
Its about time someone took a stand! |
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metalhawk
join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON
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Re: Why?
said by lrtc :Why just bell I mean rogers does it to? Because Rogers isn't available in Quebec. |
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bathurst
join:2005-05-29
Davis, CA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Waste of time; lawsuit can't beat legal muscle of Bell
Doing what's right may fail continuously, but this is never a waste of one's time.
Bruce |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
 ·magicjack.com
| Contradiction?
I don't understand the part about throttling being inconsistent with constant speed guarantees. If my ISP guaranteed constant speed, to me that would mean making sure some users don't consume all the bandwidth. It would imply throttling to me. Not unlimited bandwidth.
Mark |
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Jcab
@bell.ca | 80% ??
Anyone have the explanation of 80%?? I thought the throttling was only in the evening... How is that 80%?? |
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chronoss2008
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join:2008-03-29
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
4 edits | Boy are you guys stupid
you make it sound like rest of canada has no civil authority
THEY DO
AND BELL CAN BE SUED civilly class action wise ANYWHERE
SONY was sued class action in ontario
and have a look at all the class action google can find
»www.google.ca/search?q=class+act···irefox-a
And i will note that sony class action that resulted in a win, if bell/rogers wish to continue spreading FUD to prevent ontario and other places from suing that is there prerogative but know that the rest of us aren't fooled.
We pleasantly await some nice soul with either the money to start it, or a kind lawyer who will go for it.
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About Class Action Lawsuits in Canada
A class action allows one person, called a representative plaintiff, to start a lawsuit on behalf of himself/herself as well as all others who fit into the defined class, subject to the rights of class members to withdraw or opt-out. This means that a single person can commence a class action on behalf of hundreds or thousands of people.
Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland are the only five provinces in Canada with Class Action Legislation in effect. The Supreme Court of Canada has recently ruled that court procedures allowing representative actions can be interpreted so as to allow for class actions.
Class action legislation in Canada allows greater access to justice by permitting groups of people who are similarly affected to join together in commencing legal action.
»www.avalanchesearch.com/classactionlaw/
I am going to call the number will you? |
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Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
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Re: Contradiction?
what is of significant importance is bell is deciding that bittorrent traffic is not as high a priority as other traffic. what's being fought for is to keep telecom companies from prioritizing traffic based on it's content.
they also have bandwidth caps ontop of this.
said by amigo_boy :I don't understand the part about throttling being inconsistent with constant speed guarantees. If my ISP guaranteed constant speed, to me that would mean making sure some users don't consume all the bandwidth. It would imply throttling to me. Not unlimited bandwidth. Mark |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com
1 edit | said by Roop :what is of significant importance is bell is deciding that bittorrent traffic is not as high a priority as other traffic. It still seems like a stretch to say throttling is inconsistent with guaranteed constant speed. If my ISP made that promise, I would assume this means they are going to throttle things so everyone can have constant speeds.
Also, throttling BT doesn't seem earth shattering to me. If a bunch of people were using http to download files in a batch-like manner, I'd expect it to be lower priority. If they're serving packets they received, I could see even greater reason to throttle it.
If people oppose this, that's ok. But, using "constant speed" as the argument doesn't seem to be the issue. It looks more like they want batch, non-interactive services to be as fast as interactive. And, they want to perform server operations.
Mark |
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