moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | But will they lower rates?
Of course not.  |
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Newsgroups are part of the Internet
Newsgroups are part of the Internet and I have used them since the internet started. I would be mad if my ISP dropped them because I would have to subscribe to a service.
I guess that 99% of mom and pop internet users do not even know they exist so they will get very few complaints. |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | haha...
Time Warner seems to be digging themselves a pit. Newwsgroups these days are pretty popular. |
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NbWY1
join:2003-05-23
Columbia, MD | VZ
VZ still offers it, hehe. |
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whiteyonenh
join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| No Newsgroups?
The newsgroups was one of the only things keeping me on Time Warner. If newsgroups go away, it looks like I'll be switching to DSL at some point.
I currently have Roadrunner Turbo only for the upload speed (10down/1up), and frankly I could get DSL for significantly cheaper (3down/0.75up), but looking at it from a financial perspective of going to DSL and having to pay for decent newsgroups, I would be paying less to switch to DSL.
I was thinking about switching providers a while back, but with Time Warner including newsgroups, I felt it to be a better deal, now if they don't offer them anymore, what is keeping me here? They still haven't fixed my signal issue where on hot days sometimes my upstream goes so high that the modem drops. Of course I don't hold TWC totally responsible for that, it's also the apartment building I'm in with RG59/U lines (built in the 70's, probably wired for cable in the late 80's/early 90's). |
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whiteyonenh
join:2004-08-09
Keene, NH
clubs: | reply to NbWY1
Re: VZ
While Verizon may still offer it, they're missing a significant amount of binary groups, therefore it's like they don't offer it at all. |
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fxt107
join:2003-01-18
Elmhurst, NY | Newgroups
Just hope they don't start blocking the ports to get to 3rd party newsgroups. This is all to limit bandwidth use. |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
 ·T-Mobile US
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to moonpuppy
Re: But will they lower rates?
yeah, this is my biggest contention. I'm very sad to see TWC's (high quality) usenet access go by the wayside. I'd rather see them go the Comcast route and give me a few gigs of Giganews as a backup, but the free ride is over. Looks like i'll no longer be able to rely on RR as my primary server and i'll just stick to Usenetserver (with an Astraweb backup block account) instead!
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FIOS
 ·Vonage
·magicjack.com
|  Per Gig usage, no newsgroups...
My exgirlfriend's brother's uncle's sister's father works for TW and they said that later this year they'll also be discontinuing e-mail accounts, and bricking everyone's modem.
They will, however, continue to give you a bill every month. 
Ah well, I kid, I kid. I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. I'm actually suprised ISPs still carried Usenet, specifically the binary groups. I don't know how many people this will really impact overall; I'm sure some people here will be effected, but in the grand scheme of things, I dont know. Not one of my coworkers even knows what Usenet is.
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000
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Re: Newsgroups are part of the Internet
"I guess that 99% of mom and pop internet users do not even know they exist so they will get very few complaints."
When we signed people up I used to tell people about newsgroup access. I used to hear replies like "Oh you mean like CNN?" After a while I gave up on anyone understanding or knowing what newsgroups are and just stopped telling people about it.
We dropped our newsgroups several years ago. I didn't want it to happen but then I was asked for the number of people who used newsgroups. When I looked at the usage and divided out the cost of offering newsgroups by the number of people that were using newsgroups it worked out that each user was costing two to three times what they were paying for service. |
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esc0
@newskies.net | reply to moonpuppy
Re: But will they lower rates?
We need to ask ourselves? (WWJD) => What Would Jesus Do?
TWC you suck. This is why I dropped and I am not looking back. |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to whiteyonenh
Re: VZ
said by whiteyonenh  :While Verizon may still offer it, they're missing a significant amount of binary groups, therefore it's like they don't offer it at all. Bull. Verizon's newsgroup service is excellent. I've never found something I wanted in a group they didn't carry.
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v35_pilot
Whoops, there goes another AMU
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
·ViaTalk
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to Jeffrey
Re: Per Gig usage, no newsgroups...
said by Jeffrey : I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days. |
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rcdailey
Dragoonfly
Premium
join:2005-03-29
Rialto, CA
| reply to Jeffrey
It's my feeling that most people will not even notice. Between sites like this which offer forums, plus blogs that are popping up all over, the need for newsgroups to share information is nearly gone. Some may say, "What about binaries?" Well, there are many sites on the web that offer binaries. So, there is no longer any marketing value in offering free usenet. Where there is no marketing value in a feature, you can bet it will be removed. |
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Luwigie
Premium
join:2002-06-06
East Lansing, MI
clubs: | reply to esc0
Re: But will they lower rates?
said by esc0 :
We need to ask ourselves? (WWJD) => What Would Jesus Do?
Jesus uses Time Warner? |
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roc5955
Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| RE: Time Warner Cable To Stop Offering Newsgroup Access
Well, we could all get together and file a class-action suit to either get them to bring back the usenet groups as part of their Internet service, or charge us less for incomplete Internet service, yet advertising Internet service, and not advertising limited Internet service. When I hear an advertisement for Internet service, I presume that it is the WHOLE Internet, and not just the part that is profitable to the ISP. I am sure that others will agree with me on this.
Usenet is the main way that we get Linux support, as well as support on a myriad of technical issues. Without it, it is not the Internet.
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AnonProxy
Proxy of Anon
Premium
join:2001-05-12
ß
| Ohhh boy
Why are there so many silly people in the world?
1. You want faster speeds but you want to pay for nothing. I have a feeling that some of those complaining loudly about price and access don't even know what newsgroups are.
Sadly everyone wants something for free...but the answer actually is, TWC will probably not raise rates as fast due to cost cutting...but then again it just might be a profit move.
2. What has driven this switch or drop of newsgroups? file sharing sites and peer to peer sites. 94% of all newsgroup traffic is what, files sharing...by total throughput.
3. For the person that has been using "newsgroups" since the beginning of the "Internet" it is unfortunate that in all that time you didn't figure out that if your ISP stopped offering newsgroup access, you don't need to "subscribe to a service.
4. FOr the guys that think VZ's newsgroup access is top notch. Evidently you don't know newsgroup access or have never used it. VZ's newsgroup access is sub standard for sure. |
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FIOS
·Vonage
·magicjack.com
1 edit | reply to v35_pilot
Re: Per Gig usage, no newsgroups...
said by v35_pilot :said by Jeffrey : I never found newsgroup access from any ISP to be reliable/meet my needs within the last 5 or 6 years. TW's binary retention rate was something like 3 days and their completion rate was a miserable 50-60%, as I remember their service from my pre-FiOS days. It was that bad, eh? I had Optimum Online from 1999 to mid=-2005, and from 2002 to 2005, newsgroup completion was almost as terrible, and the download speeds were like 50KB/sec. On 10mbit/1mbit at the time too.
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And so castles made of sand, slip into the sea, eventually.
I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing. |
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gimme5
join:2002-12-23
Kissimmee, FL | Switch to Earthlink?
Maybe a switch to Earthlink is in order for those who don't care about their road runner e-mail/hosting. |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| Internet Evolution
Anyone remember UUCP, WAIS, or Gopher? NNTP has had a long and enjoyable life, but audience is so small and most of the discussion value has moved to forum applications like this one.
RIP NNTP
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