ykronic
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join:2006-01-31
Canada | And all this time.....
I thought Bono was the only reason I hated U2 |
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vpoko
Premium
join:2003-07-03
Jamaica Plain, MA
1 edit | Why stop there?
Let's go after PC manufacturers, OS developers, BIOS manufacturers, the electric company, furniture companies (no furniture = no computer use = no stealing), and everyone else! Because protectionism should come at any cost. Doesn't matter what kind of losses you create in other industries, everyone must actively work to enrich one particular industry.
But the music industry is doing good for these companies, which is why they need to be forced to pay at gunpoint. After all, they can't just tell the music industry to take a hike and that they'll be fine without it, because nobody can live without RIAA.
Luckily the industries they're going after are as well-connected as them. |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs: | I'll say this as maturely as McGuinness' comments warrant
Blow me. |
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arck1969
join:2006-11-27
Apple Valley, CA | The Music Sucks
Now it can not have anything to do with music these days sucking? So charge everyone for crap they are not buying. |
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mig
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-26
Anytown, USA
clubs:
| How about this?
With most of todays' music (is that what the RIAA really calls this?), how about the listner charge the RIAA for being spoon fed this?
Some of the bands out there deserve to be compensated for their works, many of the bands out there need to find new careers and stop pretending to be artists. |
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Taget
join:2004-07-29
| If you really want to go to the heart of the problem...
....start taxing the "artists" (if you can use that word to describe some 3rd runner up on American Idol) who continually fail to make anything worth buying. Without all these "musicians" failing to make music anyone wants the "music industry" wouldnt be in the situation it is. |
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zalternate
join:2007-02-22
BC | Everyones a criminal, without evidence.
Everyone's a criminal and all the sinners saints. So just call me Lucifer..........
And the Music industry should not forget to get the rights to your first born. And royalties of the content of the kids diapers.. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
1 edit | U2 really looks like they're hurting
It's a miracle they have enough money for food 
The RIAA should pay me a noise pollution tax cause their crap sucks ass. |
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Pv8man999
@wideopenwest.com
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guitarzan 
| Well..
Mcguinnes: ISPs and companies like Google have "built multi-billion dollar industries on the back of our content without paying for it."
Even if that were true.....
HAAAA....Oh well...... How does it feel to get f*cked like a good ol average joe american.
Doesn't fell good does it? |
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lotusracer
Premium
join:1999-11-26
Moline, IL
| reply to vpoko
Re: Why stop there?
said by vpoko :Let's go after PC manufacturers, OS developers, BIOS manufacturers, the electric company, furniture companies (no furniture = no computer use = no stealing), and everyone else! What's next, they go after God because had he not created mankind, there would be no piracy? |
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DownTheShore
Maddie Knows Poopie
Premium
join:2003-12-02
Beautiful NJ
clubs:
| Push The Blame On Someone Else
...instead of where it squarely belongs on - on the record companies. If they didn't start (and continue) to price gouge the consumer after the introduction and switch to the CD format, they probably wouldn't be in the situation they are now. They overcharged the consumers for years, due to their greed, so naturally alternative sources for the product developed. The mindset that developed was a product of that: "if it's okay for them to screw us, it's okay for us to screw them".
Without their greed providing the impetus, I wonder if our personal ethics would have changed to that degree so comprehensively.
Frankly, though, we're the ones that give bands like U2 and all the rest the income to allow them to have their mansions and bling and flights to Hong Kong for speeches. So forgive me if I don't cry them a river. I can appreciate the music that has enriched my life over all these years, but their recompense has greatly exceeded their contribution, and I think they tend to lose that perspective on themselves.
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Life is simply one damned thing after another. |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | reply to arck1969
Re: The Music Sucks
Which is why my music taste is nowhere in the 'popular' vein as the many millions of clueless listeners get their 'hits' from the payola/Clear Channel controlled radio. |
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY | ...
I wouldn't mix ISP with YouTube, but YouTube does leave me amazed. They host and distribute countless amounts of copyrighted material, in some cases millions of times over. And it's not shut down! So much for copyright. |
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FLengineer
Premium
join:2007-06-26
Leesburg, FL | And on another subject.
Porn producers should have to pay a Masturbation Tax to all married women for their losses. |
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Anomaly95
join:2005-12-11
Phoenix, AZ | Artists?
It's not like the artists would see any extra money if the RIAA did get royalties from the communication (and computer?) industry... |
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freebird317
Premium
join:2004-02-23
Portland, OR
 ·Comcast
| reply to Pv8man999
Re: Well..
said by Pv8man999 :
Even if that were true.....
HAAAA....Oh well...... How does it feel to get f*cked like a good ol average joe american.
Doesn't fell good does it?
LOL how true. 
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Lead, Follow I do not care just get out of my way. |
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
Premium
join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR
4 edits | Facts from the IFPI
I came across this article from the IFPI, the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. The article is called "The Broader Music Industry."
The recorded music industry is the engine helping to drive a much broader music industry, worth more than US$130 billion globally. Global retail sales of recorded music totaled US$31 billion in 2006. Music also is one of the leading creative industries driving the media and entertainment sector that is now worth an estimated US$1.4 trillion, with experts predicting this figure will grow to US$1.8 trillion by 2010 (PWC). Source:
www.ifpi.org/content/library/the-broader-music-industry.pdf
It seems that Paul McGuinness has no clue what he's talking about. So it's safe to say that he is either blowing smoke to get attention, has his facts wrong, or is a flat out liar.
Regardless, the facts do not support his argument for a piracy tax. The facts do not support his view that ISPs and all technology companies should pay the music industry for the individual actions of their customers. I am not even going to there with Google, that is just too ludicrous to justify any intelligent response. Finally, the facts do not support that the music industry is in a crisis.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
1 edit | reply to ykronic
Re: And all this time.....
said by ykronic :I thought Bono was the only reason I hated U2 :D 
I second this, completely agree. I always knew Bono is just, well, a successful musician who somehow thinks he's also smart, important etc so I always felt he's kinda fake but never imagined they are this huge phonies.
Well, wake me up again when he scores some grad paper or posts a great recipe or anything useful. |
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ironweasel
Weezy
join:2000-09-13
Belen, NM
| reply to Taget
Re: If you really want to go to the heart of the problem...
said by Taget :....start taxing the "artists" (if you can use that word to describe some 3rd runner up on American Idol) who continually fail to make anything worth buying. Without all these "musicians" failing to make music anyone wants the "music industry" wouldnt be in the situation it is. I would have no problem paying $15 for a CD, even if I only liked 2 or 3 songs on the entire album.
The catch?
At least half goes to the actual artist, instead of the 75 cents or whatever the record companies are passing along to them now. |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28
 ·magicjack.com
| Yeah, it's a real pity...
that the "music industry" has moved from the "you'll pay us what we think our content is worth" position of RIAA members to the "we won't pay you anything if the content you offer isn't worth anything" position of today's listeners. (In other words, it was OK for them to be the pirates, but God forbid that listeners should become the pirates and "steal" from them.) And if that doesn't work for them, then their solution is extortion (aka a piracy tax). I just feel so sorry for those multi-millionaires. |
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