Amr
Pointing out the obvious
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clubs:  | With a cap of course...
50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10 | and by 2010 it'll be 100mbit with a 50GB cap =P |
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AdamB
join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH | Awesome
Now we can reach our cap faster than before.  |
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fatmanskinny
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Wandering | 100Mbps / 2Mbps? Great package!
Wow. I am excited.
/Sarcasm |
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wifi4milez
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| reply to Amr
Re: With a cap of course...
Thats almost irrelevant. You will be hard pressed to find a site on the internet that can serve data at that rate. In fact, one of the only things you can do "full throttle" is steal content, and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. Email and websurfing wont be any faster on a 50Mbps connection than they will be on a 3Mbps connection in most cases.
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Dogfather
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3 edits | And Verizon could be at 400Mb
Verizon has already demonstrated 100Mb residential over B-PON with Verizon employees, currently offers 50Mb/20Mb service in select markets and with G-PON which is currently being deployed could easily support 400Mb.
Comcast will have to do better than bragging about 100Mb service not to be seen for 2 years.
How about deploying speeds their network can actually support without draconian network management and drop the prices a bit? |
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kba4
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| caps?
If they have any ethics to them at all, then the data caps will either be increased or lifted completely with the new DOCSIS implementation, because from what we've been told v.3 alleviates congestion problems, and therefore 'hogs' should no longer be a problem.
perhaps instead of 100Mbps, they should simply offer 10-20Mbps and not pack their network so tight now. I'm sure most users will not mind the 1/5 speed difference if data-caps are removed. the only reason for touting higher speeds IMO is for sales literature, and it will more than likely still include an 'up to' asterisk.
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | It only fixes the problem if they dedicate more channels to HSI. SDV and ditching analog video will help greatly is freeing up bandwidth for this.
But caps aren't about network management, they're about video competition management. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| reply to Amr
Re: With a cap of course...
said by Amr :50Mbps with a cap of 250GB...horrible. even more horrible is 50Mbps at $150/mo.; the only people that would pay for that are likely to be power users.
throw in the cap, which will only be reached quicker at 50Mbps, and I can see people saying "why bother".
seems to be contradictory things going on in the broadband business. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
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| reply to wifi4milez
said by wifi4milez :.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. .. caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring. |
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wifi4milez
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| said by nasadude :said by wifi4milez :.. and thats precisely why the caps are being implemented. .. caps are being implemented for the sole reason of sucking more money out of existing customers. stopping p2p and illegal downloading is a red herring. Thats your opinion, however my statement that most sites cant be accessed any faster (on a 50Mbps connection) is an irrefutable fact. Each time DSLR reports about faster internet speeds there is inevitably an avalanche of "now I can reach the cap faster" posts. I am simply looking to point out that with the exception of piracy, most "normal" websites will behave in the same manor, and thus your caps wont be reached any quicker.
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1 edit |  Docsis3 News highlighted at annual investor conference
The annual Merrill Lynch media conference highlights presentations from many media companies. Here was Comcast's presentation:
»library.corporate-ir.net/library···0508.pdf
Comcast customers are still upgrading to digital video and HSI, but at a slower rate than last year. But voice growth is still accelerating quickly.
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scrummie02
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Re: With a cap of course...
Actually that's false.
More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet.
Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def.
So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content.
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BSD24
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| Why mention caps?
Why would you guys even post about caps. Comcast hasn't setup caps for ppl yet, Time Warner is testing it. The faster the speed the higher you pay = the higher your cap anyways. Comcast hasn't decided if they will even cap it. I doubt an isp would give you a 100Mbps connection with a 50Mb cap!
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Matt
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Re: With a cap of course...
said by scrummie02 :Actually that's false. More and more website are pushing multimedia through their websites. Sites like hulu, netflix, joost and others are letting people watch full movies on the internet. Games are more bandwidth intensive as well. Let's not forget things like xbox live marketplace where you can also purchase and download movies and shows and watch them in high def. So no, high bandwidth usage isn't for only stealing content. I agree. I can tell the difference in my 15Mbps connection and a Time Warner 5Mbps connection ... even though latency is about the same. |
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espaeth
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1 edit | reply to Dogfather
Re: caps?
said by Dogfather :But caps aren't about network management, they're about video competition management. Again, the infrastructure doesn't exist for IP-based video to take over for broadcast video yet.
The compressed HD feeds that people are bitching about are 5-8mbps, for "uncompressed" (ie, better H264/VC1 quality) HD video you're looking at 12-17mbps.
Even if you used multicast distribution (which none of the content providers are doing today), on a 4-bonded-channel DOCSIS 3.0 system that only gives you 30 HD channels assuming the 5mbps compressed rate. (4 x 38 =152mbps. 152/5 = 30.4) That's also not allowing any remaining bandwidth for any other IP services. Given an average of 400 homes passed per node, this breaks down in a big hurry.
The infrastructure simply doesn't exist for IP video delivery to be any kind of serious threat to mainstream video distribution. |
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K3
join:2008-05-06
Kankakee, IL
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| reply to BSD24
Re: Why mention caps?
Yeah its funny to see how many people rush to judgement on caps, there are no caps in place yet, they are being tested, and nobody said anything about docsis 3.0 being capped when it comes out. I have Blast and have gone over 250GB in each of the four months I have had it. No phone call, email or letter about going over a cap, its a bunch of melarchy. |
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ninjatutle
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Re: With a cap of course...
Yeah, but they're still the BMW of the interweb. |
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kba4
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Canton, OH
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| reply to espaeth
Re: caps?
perhaps not for live video but I'm sure a lot of users will argue that downloaded, and even staggered video would be preferred if there is a significant savings for the viewer. I know I wouldn't mind waiting a few minutes- even an hour- for a buffer to fill if I could watch content in full 1080 at no charge! of course, this assumes the content involved is either pirated or not copyrighted, but ISP's have had no problem providing fast access to this data up til now.
CATV providers will simply have to accept at some point in the future that at the very least their 'bandwidth-hogs' will have to be treated with respect: CATV will become largely live-tv content with everything else (which by my account is at least 2/3 the content) being pre-recorded and thus available via VOD or IPTV. |
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