ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA
1 edit | Cable Company?
Do they think their same ol phone company ad is creative? Cable companies have a worst reputation. They're on par with oil corporations in the eyes of the people. |
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Pizz
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join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | I can say this.
FIOS cannot get here soon enough. |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | Contract and Cap?
If a customer is under contract (2yr) and THEN they add the cap, I would think that the cap would not apply until after the term of the contract. Otherwise they would be changing the terms of the contract. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
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| said by Lazlow  :If a customer is under contract (2yr) and THEN they add the cap, I would think that the cap would not apply until after the term of the contract. Otherwise they would be changing the terms of the contract. ... you know the contract will have legalese in it saying they can "manage the network" at will....
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Bobcat
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Bedminster, NJ | "It's still the same old phone company"
I'd rather get TV service from the phone company than phone service from the cable company.
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
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Re: Cable Company?
Plays Titantic music for Time Warner. One cannot make a sinking ship stay afloat. If they continue down this path, three things will happen.
1) Customers will be confused about the various services (ESP with Time Warner's fiber no fiber debate)
2) Customers will opt for month to month to see what happens and avoid long term contract.
3) Customers will go elsewhere like Verizon. |
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buzz_4_20
join:2003-09-20
Presque Isle, ME | That's Great, But
They haven't done jack where I love for years.
Unless you count changing the software on the DVR so it gives users ADs and is less user friendly. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK | "Locked up" and "For Life"....
.... in close proximity to each other doesn't sound much like ideal marketing to me.... |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Price for life?
BS
What happens when content prices go up? You think Disney/ABC/ESPN won't raise prices year after year? What are you going to do? Remove channels and still charge the same?
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Corydon
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| Comcast and Qwest have been advertising this here in Denver. It only applies to internet service, which hasn't gone up in price for years anyway, not cable TV, which sees annual increases.
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| Which price is locked?
Without reading anymore than what is posted here I must ask: Will they lock the bottom line price or the above the line price?
I see it as a price lock above the line that will allow them to continue to add price increases below the line.
Just my thoughts on them.... |
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Vathral
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Re: I can say this.
said by Pizz :FIOS cannot get here soon enough. Amen.
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koitsu
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join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
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Re: Contract and Cap?
said by Lazlow :If a customer is under contract (2yr) and THEN they add the cap, I would think that the cap would not apply until after the term of the contract. Otherwise they would be changing the terms of the contract. All present-day contracts (of all sorts; doesn't matter what for or who with, from ISPs to insurance policies) have a clause in them that says the equivalent of "You agree to any amendments or changes to this policy/contract in the future".
When I have the opportunity to sign such paperwork in person, I often will cross out that section of the contract + initial the cross-out, then point out to the individual who's reviewing my signature that I don't agree with that clause. Most of the time they initial it as well, and it's approved. |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| The truth we already knew.
Well, we already knew it, but their marketing plan confirms it. They will be clogging their own pipes. I firmly believe that no metered plan is going to work state side. The reason--I'll say it again. It boils down to the old mantra "It's the economy, stupid." The timing is just plain wrong. (It may fly in Canada, their economy is doing much better than ours.)
If the cable companies are at all concerned that their growth has stalled, their newest plans may well drive down subscriber numbers. (Hmmmmm, wonder if locking in under mulit-year contract means there are some in the marketing departments sounding words of caution.) When you look at real inflation--the figure that includes food and energy costs unlike the conveniently crafted term of art "core inflation" developed by the Nixon administration to keep the federal government's calculation of the CPI artifically low for purposes of calculating annual cost of living increases for entitlement programs--we're on the edge of reaching double digit inflation. If the commodities markets aren't reigned in and energy costs continue to escalate at the current pace, watch us enter the realm of double digit inflation before the end of summer. Also, see those living in urban areas start to have to spend more than 4 percent of their income on gasoline. (The NY Times article yesterday mapped those regions where the cost of gasoline is eating up 8 percent or more of incomes. Right now it's mostly in the more rural areas of the country. However, with the constant upward pressure of crude oil prices, more highly-paid urban dwellers are going to find themselves paying closer to what their rural cousins are now.) Furthermore, those manufacturers who haven't been passing along the full cost of the increased price of production due to crude oil price increases can't continue to do so much longer. Be prepared for a double or tripple whammy to your house hold budgets by the 4th quarter of this year.
The point of my doom-and-gloom scenario? US consumers are to the point of being tapped out. As pressures increase on them to the point where there are hard decisions to make about essentials like food, shelter and transportation to-and-from work, a growing percent of consumers will begin to scale back on non-essentials. And to most, except perhaps broadband report readers, this includes high-speed Internet.
So go ahead, Time Warner, Comcast and others. Your greed will be a boon to less expensive DSL, where available. And some, who may only surf and check email, may actually go back to good old dialup. |
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Derspankster
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join:2003-02-12
Marion, OH | reply to Vathral
Re: I can say this.
I'll never see FIOS |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA
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4 edits | Caps for life and they charged me extra for HD boxes
No thanks. And while TWC is offering a 20Mbps tier in NYC, my understanding is that Verizon is already doing capless 50Mbps/20Mbps in Brooklyn.
BTW, I was charged extra for HD boxes by Time Warner up until I cancelled a few weeks ago.
Exactly like Verizon FiOS TV, TWC HD programming was free, but they're lying if they say they don't charge extra for HD boxes. I was charged a $5.00 premium on TOP of the regular $6.95 box charge for each of my HD boxes for a total of $11.95 per HD box for rental.
Thankfully they're gone for DirecTV and my 30Mb FiOS is being installed on the 19th. Yay. |
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hayabusa3303
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Re: I can say this.
would be nice if att would do something like that on a large scale like verzion. |
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bugabuga
join:2004-06-10
Austin, TX
| Price for life of a contract
The two year agreement states, that they will extend it for another two years but reserve the right to adjust prices at the extension. I.e. you get $100 for three services for two years, but when the renewal is due they can increase it (and you'll have $150 bill for the next to years).
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jwersan
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Port Jefferson Station, NY
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Re: I can say this.
said by Derspankster :I'll never see FIOS Move! 
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ElJay
join:2004-03-17 | reply to ninjatutle
Good question
Although I hate both Verizon and Time Warner, I'd much rather deal with Verizon. I've found my local Time Warner office can't even configure a cable box, let alone run a data network. |
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