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Comments on news posted 2008-06-11 13:39:36: Both cable and phone companies hire outside lobbying firms to make up completely bogus consumer groups to support their political positions. ..

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Dogfather
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Cable denies?

As previously mentioned before all the postings were deleted, they (Comcast) denied traffic shaping and packet forging too.

We all know that cable and telcos never lie.


PhonePower
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So Absolutely True

I have been to several PUC metings where people come out of the woodworks, are totally uninformed about the topics, but know exactly what to say when they get up on the podium.

The deck is so "stacked" it's sick.

Sad state of affairs.


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Re: Cable denies?

said by Dogfather See Profile :

As previously mentioned before all the postings were deleted, they (Comcast) denied traffic shaping and packet forging too.

We all know that cable and telcos never lie.
The corn farmer group also denied that they were involved with cable or telco and that they were against Google on their own hook over anti-trust concerns. And the author of that CNET news item listed his wife is a Google employee.
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Yep, just a big coincidence that the PDF was authored by an employee (Alexandra Esser) of a well known lobby firm employeed by the cable industry to fight Google.

As far as the wife of the author, unlike cable and telcos, the author discloses that fact.

What a joke...almost as funny as the lame NCTA anti-net neutrality propaganda.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPIYxtjLFeI


The cable and telco industries have a long history of lying. I don't believe for a second that this is all coincidence nor do I believe a single word coming out their spokeholes' mouths.


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. . . and history keeps repeating itself

Cable denies they're involved in any such campaign . . .
I'd bet they're lying . . . after all, that's what they ALWAYS do.

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Re: Cable denies?

said by Dogfather See Profile :

As previously mentioned before all the postings were deleted, they (Comcast) denied traffic shaping and packet forging too.

We all know that cable and telcos never lie.
Can you point me to where the postings were deleted? And who do you think did it (the deleting), DSLR or the Comcast shills?
Thanks,

Dave

*edited for an attempt at clarity*


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Can't point to them, they were deleted. I don't know who deleted them and it could have been a mistake 'cause there was nothing crazy in any of the posts that would warrant deletion.

There was about 4 or 5 posts and all were removed at the same time. TK had a post, and I think it was Moonpuppy who had one. And I had one. I went to do another follow up and was met with the error "Board does not exist" or something to that effect. I refreshed the page and the posts were gone. So I reposted my point and that's how I got first post.

This happens on rare occasion. The last time I remember this happening was with one of Karl's good ole "FiOS installers tear up sh!t" articles which were frequent at the time (this was probably 2 years ago). But in the article it turned out that FiOS installers weren't really reponsible for the damage. If I remember right, the street was mismarked by the utility company who owned that underground infrastructure or something. In either event, FiOS being the religion here that it is, Karl was quickly called out on it and all the posts were deleted, followed shortly thereafter by the entire news item since it no longer fit the FiOS installers wreak havok agenda of the period.


Dogfather
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Re: . . . and history keeps repeating itself

Certainly expected from an industry who's largest company pays people to pack public hearings on Net Neutrality so that the general public can't get a voice.


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It's certainly a sad state of affairs when lying is an expected agendum.


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It's cause there is no consequences for it. They can lie all they want and nothing happens. Verizon/BS gets to keep the $2 billion they stole from Pennsylvania and Comcast chugs on after packing FCC meetings with shills and lying about packet forging.


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Re: Cable denies?

said by Dogfather See Profile :

Yep, just a big coincidence that the PDF was authored by an employee (Alexandra Esser) of a well known lobby firm employeed by the cable industry to fight Google.

As far as the wife of the author, unlike cable and telcos, the author discloses that fact.

What a joke...almost as funny as the lame NCTA anti-net neutrality propaganda.

(youtube clip)
cable and telco industries have a long history of lying. I don't believe for a second that this is all coincidence nor do I believe a single word coming out their spokeholes' mouths.
That clips is sooo wrong. first of all google and everyone already pays for their bandwidth. secondly if you make Google, ESPN, Amazon etc etc pay do you think they are going to eat that cost? No, they will pass it on to WHO? That's right YOU the consumer. So this stupid bitch says WE will pay with net neutrailty, fails to tell you that we will pay even MORE without it. yeah I'm sure wal-mart is going eat the cost of having to pay ISP because of all the million of peole that shopa t it's website. What wal-mart will do is make employees cut back hours or just reduce their pay.


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Re: . . . and history keeps repeating itself

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Verizon/BS gets to keep the $2 billion they stole from Pennsylvania
Verizon/BS??? Don't you mean Verizon/BPA. Bell of PA then became Bell Atlantic and then Verizon. BS merged with AT&T and not Verizon.
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Super Karl.

Introducing...Karl: Policing the world, 1 cable company at a time.


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Re: Cable denies?

It's the NCTA...they're whores just like the NAtB and every other lobby group. They don't give a crap how many lies they tell, so long as they trick the public, stop the public from having their voices heard and get the right politicians bribed so that they represent industry interests over the interests of consumers or competitors.


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said by omgdave See Profile :

said by Dogfather See Profile :

As previously mentioned before all the postings were deleted, they (Comcast) denied traffic shaping and packet forging too.

We all know that cable and telcos never lie.
Can you point me to where the postings were deleted? And who do you think did it (the deleting), DSLR or the Comcast shills?
Thanks,

Dave

*edited for an attempt at clarity*
As someone who didnt post, I can confirm it happened about 15 minutes ago. I went to click on the link and I got a "post not found" error (or something like that). I am not going to speculate what happened however, but I am simply confirming there were comments that disappeared.
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Dogfather
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Re: . . . and history keeps repeating itself

My bad, it was Verizon/Bell Atlantic who got the perks but didn't live up to the Chap 30 requirements.

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Re: Cable denies?

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There was about 4 or 5 posts and all were removed at the same time. TK had a post, and I think it was Moonpuppy who had one. And I had one. I went to do another follow up and was met with the error "Board does not exist" or something to that effect. I refreshed the page and the posts were gone. So I reposted my point and that's how I got first post.
Yep, TK posted how Cable was not involved and I responded with how Comcast said they didn't forge packets.

Can you really trust corporations?

Like the saying goes, "It is better to beg forgiveness then ask permission."


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Can't point to them, they were deleted. I don't know who deleted them and it could have been a mistake 'cause there was nothing crazy in any of the posts that would warrant deletion.
It was a mistake. I accidentally re-published the story during an edit to include a hyperlink and it nuked the four or five comments.


Dogfather
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Ah, bummer. I was hoping for a grander anti-cable conspiracy. Guess I'll have to settle for the check circulation headline conspiracy.

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I wonder if I am a sock puppet because I don't really trust Google all that much, especially about medical records, or MS for that matter.
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