odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
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join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
clubs:
 ·Comcast
·Metrocast Communic..
 ·Vonage
| Telco overbuilding....
I didn't think I would ever see the day! It'll definitely be interesting for TW.
Imagine it... a Cable Beehive, VRAD cabinet, and coils of glass all in your easement! I can see the lawsuit now  |
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Hookem99
Deep In The Heart
join:2007-07-18
Pflugerville, TX | Where??
Austin?? I guess it would be wishful thinking to hope they overbuild in an area they don't currently build in! Yet another reason I should live in the Metroplex!
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | Why Not Just Purchase the Area
I would think that purchasing markets and infrastructure would be more economical than overbuilding and attempting to compete with two competitors. Could prove to be interesting if this plays out. |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
1 edit | Potentialy very costly
If I'm a potential customer in this market I am happy, if I'm a stockholder of VZ/T I'm worried. At&T isn't just going to rollover. They are going to hit back hard and put new priority on poaching $$$$$VZ business customers. Potential to get very costly for both.
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Enlightener
join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
| Content vs Distribution
I know this is silly thinking, but it really seems like the cable companies and telcos should just build a common fiber infrastructure with the ability to switch a customer from one provider to another. Let them compete on content and service but share the expense of laying fiber.
I know this is how the electric system works ( power provider vs distributor ) in some areas, has it been successful or not?
Either way, Verizon can feel free to overbuild in Cedar Park, TX ( they are in Georgetown, TX now ) any time they want. Maybe that'll convince AT&T to give us FTTP customers more then 10mbps of goodness. |
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mjwise
join:2007-05-09
Ann Arbor, MI | reply to JSRoman
Re: Potentialy very costly
I have U-Verse, and it's a fine service, but Verizon will slaughter AT&T in this market - FiOS is really just in a different (higher) class of service. I for one support the poaching. |
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | good for Verizon
they seem to do risky things that run counter to the oligopoly model of business. It will be interesting to see which big corporate strategy wins out. |
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datwell1
join:2002-01-08
Falls Church, VA
| And they said...
And they said the big telcos would never compete against each other!
Verizon knows they have the "better mouse trap" and if they are allowed to compete, they should beat the brains out of their competition. FiOS is just great and I speak from experience.
Just my 2 cents.
--Doug |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to Enlightener
Re: Content vs Distribution
said by Enlightener  :it really seems like the cable companies and telcos should just build a common fiber infrastructure with the ability to switch a customer from one provider to another. Makes competition too easy. I seriously doubt that you'll see any major telecom provider volunteering to jointly build a common infrastructure. |
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MrSpock29
join:2008-02-09
Hammonton, NJ
| Qwest
"The move should prove more worrysome for Qwest, who is relying on slower ADSL2+, has no real triple play service to offer, and rubs up against Verizon in several markets."
This is what I think is a key part of what Karl posted. Qwest is having some financial issues, and I believe they said they didn't believe FTTH was worth it, so if VZ did overbuild in Qwest's areas, Q would have a hard time competing.
In a perfect world, it would be nice if all areas could have a choice of many providers instead of a couple. The differences between them all would probably become much clearer too. |
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questionable
join:2005-10-18
Phoenix, AZ | Fios
Please come to Phoenix
or get Qwest worried to build the network the way they should |
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MrMaster
What If
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Austin, TX
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Hookem99
Re: Where??
said by Hookem99 :Austin?? I guess it would be wishful thinking to hope they overbuild in an area they don't currently build in! Yet another reason I should live in the Metroplex! Please. "another reason"? What possible reason would you have to want to move to Dallas other than for FIOS? |
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MrMaster
What If
Premium
join:2000-12-16
Austin, TX
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to JSRoman
Re: Potentialy very costly
said by JSRoman :If I'm a potential customer in this market I am happy, if I'm a stockholder of VZ/T I'm worried. At&T isn't just going to rollover. They are going to hit back hard and put new priority on poaching $$$$$VZ business customers. Potential to get very costly for both. business customers? This is a play for residential. AT&T can't keep up going head to head with VZW with U-Verse. Way too many limitations. AT&T would be forced to lower prices or change strategies. |
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Hookem99
Deep In The Heart
join:2007-07-18
Pflugerville, TX | reply to MrMaster
Re: Where??
Yeah, ok point taken!  |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
 ·T-Mobile US
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to odog
Re: Telco overbuilding....
said by odog :I didn't think I would ever see the day! It'll definitely be interesting for TW. Imagine it... a Cable Beehive, VRAD cabinet, and coils of glass all in your easement! I can see the lawsuit now TW will be fine. It's got bandwidth to compete. ATT, however, will be crapping bricks.
Of course, Plano and Frisco are among the most wealthy (and fastest growing) areas in the United States, so whoever can dominate there is guaranteed to make big bucks.
MUCH RESPEK, VZ!
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
·AT&T Southwest
1 edit | Keller TX (Dallas) was the initial FiOS site -- and was divided with AT&T across it's southern half.
Deregulation passed in 2005 -- allowing anyone to build-out anywhere (no more exclusive areas). It worked. Too bad I sold my house in the AT&T half of Keller. Now I could get FiOS.
Even Charter Cable rolled-out it's 16mbs tier in Keller -- due to FiOS. Deregulation works.
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| reply to Hookem99
Re: Where??
UVerse has reached Round Rock. And far-south austin. (Circle C is available) But being in in Pflugerville, you are screwed.
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Hookem99
Deep In The Heart
join:2007-07-18
Pflugerville, TX | Why are we screwed? Uverse is in most Pfville hoods...getting it my self next week. I would just rather have FIOS.
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
clubs:
| I didn't realize they had rolled out there. Last I heard p-town was going to be the unserved void between round rock and north austin.
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Hookem99
Deep In The Heart
join:2007-07-18
Pflugerville, TX
·ViaTalk
·AT&T U-Verse
·Suddenlink
·AT&T Southwest
| said by Camelot One :I didn't realize they had rolled out there. Last I heard p-town was going to be the unserved void between round rock and north austin. Been in my neighborhood for a few months now, and we were one of the last to get it!
ATT would have been dumb to leave out Pville. Most of the city is served by Suddenlink Cable, which, at best, sucks!
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