KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | We'll see... especially if they move to metering....
Wonder how many people get UVerse for TV, or get it to get faster broadband... |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | i going to be getting it for the 1.5mbps up
cable only has 1.0mbps
YES i will willing to switch for .5 mbps more up |
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bfreese
join:2003-08-18
Wadsworth, IL | Now if only they would improve that pesky latency I would actually get it... |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·DSL EXTREME
| reply to KrK
Yeah - metering may be a deal breaker if I ever want service.
On a 3Mbps plan, I would expect no less than 60GB/month
6Mbps plan, no less than 150GB/month
10Mbps, no less than 300GB/month as 'reasonable' caps.
Eg. 95% should never hit them.. yet.
A 3Mbps plan could theretically pass through 1TB of data/month.
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Hookem99
Deep In The Heart
join:2007-07-18
Pflugerville, TX
 ·ViaTalk
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·Suddenlink
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to KrK
Im having Uverse installed tomorrow. I was only interested in HSI, but was talked into the TV side for the free install. Ill try the TV for a month for free, but I dont see them competing with Directv at this point, especially in the HD department. Only time will tell!!
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| It's funny that...
if Uverse has passed Ten MILLION units in 43 markets..
Why then as of their last earnings report did they only manage to sign up a whopping less than 400,000 customers so far?
And that..is with their rollout in their own corporate backyard.
The fact of the matter is..AT&T..after all this time..has only managed to bring that many customers over to their "next generation" service.
While fios has signed up what..about 2 Million or so?
Imagine..passing ten MILLION potential customers and managing to get less than 400,000 of them to say yes.
Why is that do you think? I think it's because as I sit here staring at a piece of twisted pair phone line I'm asking myself one question.
Phone?
HSI?
And HDTV?
Over this?
This is what that company calls Next generation? I call it desperation ladies and gentlemen.
I call it a flop. A bad idea from the start.
An idea who's time was maybe 10 years ago..but not now.
For what must be going on two years now..I've been saying on this web site what a really bad idea uverse is.
And how compared to both cable and Verizons rollout..it simply was not going to make it.
Today..the numbers speak for themselves. There is little more anyone has to say. This company..Ma Bell..the largest telco on planet earth..has managed to scrounge together less customers than they have lost in landlines in THREE MONTHS in quarters past for their uverse service.
People are speaking out and saying NO ...to vrads.
NO...to AT&T's style of politics and strong arming themselves in communities.
And NO..to decades old copper technology.
In fact..even the State of Ct. has apparently had enough of them...recently passing a ruling saying not only future vrads need to be approved..but now they need to go back to square one and get approval from landowners for the ones they've already hauled into neighborhoods..unwelcomed..and unwanted.
AT&T...you can redeem yourself. Time however..has grown amazingly short I think. Because of the size and scale of the project you must now complete. You must stand up to your dividend loving shareholders and tell them it's time to start spending some of that cash you rake in every quarter.
It's time..for AT&T Fiber to the home.
AT&T supporters and critics alike..employees and shareholders as well..should join in with me and tell this company it is time to change. It is time to work with communities..not against them. It is time to take down the vrads and begin to install a truly next generation service.
Because if they don't. If they continue to refuse...
I seriously think there will be no more AT&T in a few years.
It really has come down to that.
Thank you.
~Rick
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | units served by ATT Landline
So how many units does ATT Landline serve? so we can calculate what % of ATT Landline customers can get Uverse. |
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borked
Cheese With That Whine?
Premium
join:2003-08-10
Kalamazoo, MI
| reply to Rick
Re: It's funny that...
AT&T is completing more than 10,000 new installations per week, and expects that to grow to more than 40,000 per week by the end of 2008. At this rate, AT&T projects it will have more than 1 million U-verse customers by the end of 2008.
More than 90 % of U-verse customers bundle with broadband; 40 % of U-verse customers are new AT&T broadband users.
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs:
| Yea..yea.
From quarter one..i've heard nothing but #'s that never materialized and projections that were never met.
I did however...read the report here at BBR of last Quarters Uverse results to date. After all this time..all this hype.
All these projections. It was what..390 something thousand customers nationwide for this next generation service?
Talk about an unenthusiastic response if i've ever seen one.
Perhaps i'm missing something here, but it seems that 70% of everything i read everywhere about the service has some negative connotation attached to it.
No excitement. No "jeesh..I wish THAT was here for me".
Then..look at verizon and the fios comments.
It's really like night and day.
And, you just have to remember..that this is the NEXT generation we're talking about here. I wouldn't be so critical if it wasn't that. And, I do realize they're in a difficult spot with a nationwide network of older style copper lines to contend with. My point is that if you're going to go to all this trouble and expense to fix it and upgrade it..Why in the world would you do it this way when already it seems so obsolete?
It makes no sense. Think about 2010 or 2011. Cable customers might very well be sailing along at 50Mb + speeds.
Heck..comcast is even saying up to 100Mb by then.
Verizon..the same.
And AT&T? I just don't get it.
Where uverse WOULD make sense is if they opened up the lines to their full potential just for HSI.
A 20 to 25Mb pipe would be very competitive..and nothing to sneeze at. But..trying to be a tv company in this hd generation..and a phone company..and a hsi provider..all over twisted pair copper to the home..is just a very bad idea. And, one that I don't think people are buying.
At least in large enough #'s to make it work out.
Sorry if I offend anyone with that opinion.
But I think it's the right one.
~Rick
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to Rick
No matter how many times your lies get corrected you just keep posting them.
You really are as useful as tits on a bull. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to KrK
Re: We'll see... especially if they move to metering....
Well maybe I took it wrong, but I'm pretty sure at&t was talking about metering service for DSL not Uverse. Perhaps they meant both. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Rick
Re: It's funny that...
said by Rick  :It makes no sense. Think about 2010 or 2011. Cable customers might very well be sailing along at 50Mb + speeds. so you can reach that 40 GB cap even faster. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
2 edits | reply to Rick
said by Rick :While fios has signed up what..about 2 Million or so? Imagine..passing ten MILLION potential customers and managing to get less than 400,000 of them to say yes. »newscenter.verizon.com/press-rel···-to.htmlVerizon offers FiOS Internet service in more than 2,000 communities and currently has more than 1.3 million FiOS Internet customers. Verizon's FiOS TV service is available to more than 4.7 million premises in 12 states, and the company has more than 717,000 FiOS TV customers. --
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| reply to bogey780
said by bogey780 :No matter how many times your lies get corrected you just keep posting them. You really are as useful as tits on a bull. He's trying to sneak his FUD in on a Sunday afternoon this time so he doesn't get flamed like always during the week with his anti-at&t drivel... |
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indianapoolis
| reply to KrK
Re: We'll see... especially if they move to metering....
I live in a Uverse area... and still don't know anybody that has it.
I already have the DSL, but invested in HD receivers for DirecTv...
So that will keep me from moving over, even if the speeds are incredibly faster. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
2 edits | reply to Rick
Re: It's funny that...
I don't have anything for or against Uverse being VDSL, what I do have against Uverse is the sales attempt - typically forcing bundling with TV.
Eg.
Cable (TWC here) you can ORDER and receive:
VoIP, HSI, TV as a standalone or bundled
FiOS, if I'm not mistaken, can be ordered similarly.
Uverse: Typically requires TV service to be ordered, VoIP is not available in many markets (unless you consider CallVantage)
Internet only - available on DSL dry loop only
VoIP only - available through CallVantage only (number not transferrable if you have AT&T as your DSL)
Its a REAL pain - I could order TWC Internet + VoIP and have it up and number transferred w/o issues.
If I wanted Internet + VoIP, I'd have to
a) Order a full bundle
b) Cancel Uverse TV service,
c) Order Call Vantage and transfer my POTS # (if they would let me do it) Uverse VoIP is not available in the L.A. area (~17 million people live in this area)
AT&T doesn't really want Internet+VoIP, they want TV service, but are not willing to properly compete.
I will add that after a few calls, AT&T would let me order Uverse Internet only, as long as I ordered Uverse MAX (10/1.5Mbps) and kept it for 6 months - they were also willing to cut the rate on it to $45/month.
As far as the 50-100Mbps service goes, with the current amount of either caps/traffic shaping, I suspect that this will be a niche market for a while. 100Mbps would require 'super G' or 'N' wireless in their RG's to deliver it.
I'd be happy with
a) decent internet service at a decent price
b) no caps below 200-300GB/month
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NetFixer
Freedom is NOT Free
Premium
join:2004-06-24
Murfreesboro, TN
·Vonage
·AT&T Southeast
·Cingular Wireless
·AT&T CallVantage
| reply to patcat88
Re: units served by ATT Landline
said by patcat88 :So how many units does ATT Landline serve? so we can calculate what % of ATT Landline customers can get Uverse. I don't know the answer to the first part of your question, but in my neck of the woods, the second part of the answer is easy: 0.000000000000%
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alfnoid
Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-18
| reply to BF69
Re: We'll see... especially if they move to metering....
said by BF69 :Well maybe I took it wrong, but I'm pretty sure at&t was talking about metering service for DSL not Uverse. Perhaps they meant both. The internet portion of Uverse IS DSL so expect it there too.
ATT was bitching about backbone capacity being used up and not making any more money for it.
That is the excuse they gave to be looking into metering so no matter what the delivery to the end user will be as far as DSL or fiber or wireless of some kind...it will all hit the backbone at some point. |
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apeface
join:2000-09-16
Mckinney, TX | reply to Rick
Re: It's funny that...
If you actually knew what the hell you where talking about, you might be dangerous. Otherwise, it is just a bunch of yawnworthy drival of little substance.
I think Comcast has your check ready. |
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campinfool
join:2006-02-24
Austin, TX
| 14%
Considering how many on here discount the efforts AT&T is making to become a video provider and how their HSI and TV is behind what current providers have, you can't say it is a flop with a 14% market share is less than 2 years. Their original DSL rollout was full of problems and roadblocks and now they are one of the largest internet providers. While I don't see Uverse over taking cable, you have to be somewhat impressed that they may have a good product. All you have to do is read the reviews on this site. Can't be too shabby. |
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