Dnepr
join:2001-11-28
Tarpon Springs, FL
1 edit |  No one cares about children... only money
That is bull crap and they know it....
Time to cancel service, since 60$ + 20$ for news service = bullshit.
I somehow doubt they will reduce price of their service because of this... |
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ironweasel
Weezy
join:2000-09-13
Belen, NM
| You would think...
..that the alt.* hierarchy would be included.
But of course, that's where all the pr0n is, and we can't have people deciding for themselves if they want to view it, now can we?
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL | reply to Dnepr
Re: No one cares about children... only money
You can get awesome news for $6/month. |
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lvlorpheus
join:2008-02-17
Eureka Springs, AR
| commercially available newsgroup
"We are not blocking access to either newsgroups or Web sites operated by others. Customers who still want to access newsgroups that are not on this list can do so through commercially available newsgroup services."
»policyblog.verizon.com/PolicyBlo···ice.aspx |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | Scumbags
In my opinion, the people at Verizon who made this decision are a bunch of scumbags, and you can tell them I said so. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
Premium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| reply to ironweasel
Re: You would think...
They better shutdown their user email accounts, block all access to other country domains,and get aggressive with P2P because child porn exists everywhere, not just NG's. Welcome to China.
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Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | Verizon's answer to throttling
What a coincidence that this frees up countless Gb of bandwidth...
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Show us the money
Since they're going to save money killing off the binaries groups, where's the discount on our service?
Obviously this has nothing to do with child porn and everything to do with killing ALL binaries groups to save dough. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to Bobcat
Re: Scumbags
The people at Verizon, or the New York Attorney General's office for forcing the ISPs to restrict newsgroups? |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by EPS  :The people at Verizon, or the New York Attorney General's office for forcing the ISPs to restrict newsgroups? And that applies to groups like nyc.transit and alt.cellular.verizon how? |
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
Premium
join:2002-09-23 | reply to EPS
Yep, an arm twist by the AG to get the ISPs to cough up $$$ and block binaries in exchange for . . . what? Immunity from prosecution for being a 'gateway' would be my guess. |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | They're blocking a lot more than just binaries.
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| A LOT more than binaries. The Alt hierarchy contains 99% of the political, self help, support, science groups and "free speech" groups. To kill 88 groups with suspect illegal material they are killing 10's of thousands of groups devoted to open discussion. Although I'm sure the right wings are happy that alt.talk.origins is going to be blocked. Can't have pesky facts out there. |
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to graysonf
Re: No one cares about children... only money
said by graysonf :You can get awesome news for $6/month. Where? Because I am ticked off now. One of the reasons I switched from OOL to Fios was because OOL had crippled their newsgroups to dial up speed.
I think I will cancel my VZ cell phone because I never use it and put the money to a third party newsgroup subscription.
Frankly I think the attorney general in NY should be forced to get VZ FIOS customers a discount from VZ since we got the shaft. Typical vote getting by the NY AG. Come election time he will be boasting about single handedly removing kiddy porn from the entire internet.
He wont mention that he just got $$ from some major ISP's because he enabled them to cut a big chunk of the internet from their service and keep the price the same.
I see this as the beginning of ISP's supplying only the part of the internet that they want to and using the old kiddy porn excuse to save themselves money. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| reply to Bobcat
Re: Scumbags
You'd have to look at what the AG wanted... at this point, I don't know if it was that the AG wanted all newsgroups blocked and this was a compromise, or if the AG just wanted some obvious bad ones blocked and Verizon and TWC used it as an excuse to cut a ton to save some money. |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
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Re: Verizon's answer to throttling
said by Cabal :What a coincidence that this frees up countless Gb of bandwidth... That's what they erroneously think until they see what they once downloaded via peering one time to their News Farms and then distributed locally, is now coming in for each customer that was using it as cheaper local Bandwidth instead of much more costly outside Gateway transversing bandwidth. Lets estimate 1200 customers times what they use to get by peering each day in GBs. That's going to hurt. 
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sancraig
join:2003-11-05
Saint Louis, MO | Am i wrong?
After reading the article it seems like anyone can still access the alt.* by having an account with someone like giganews? |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs:
| Dumb Pipe
I have seen many times on this site requests for ISP's to provide a dumb Pipe. Surely removing newsgroups is getting closer to that.
This is a positive thing..isnt it?
Hob
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bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY | Email restrictions will be next?
I am sure a lot of hi res dirty pictures get emailed, so now they can save more money and ban attachments over say 20k and save a ton of money on email servers. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to ironweasel
Re: You would think...
Soon the pr0n industry will be making a profit once all backdoor pr0n access is eliminated then, right ?
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