TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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|  Don't look for Fios in rural areas - maybe ever
Eric Rabe dances around the subject deftly, but I get this from his comments:
1 - will continue to roll out Fios "as planned"
2 - FTTP in rural areas not likely
3 - Triple play FTTN in rural areas too costly
4 - Faster DSL will be offered in rural areas where possible
5 - Wireless solution are long-term solution for rural areas
So, if you live in rural areas, you better hope WIMAX and LTE can deliver decent higher speeds. But don't look for any triple play bundles from Verizon. The best you can hope for is voice and faster internet service.
If you already have cable, then be happy and stick with it, because telcos aren't going to do it for you. And if you don't have cable, then satellite TV is your option for TV,
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Conjecture. |
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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1 edit | said by Dogfather  :Conjecture. Of course, but experienced conjecture. Based on 30 years of dealing with telcos, their sales staff, & their execs while attending dozens of presentations on futures. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Basically they are saying...
Not all customers will be able to receive FTTH, and they haven't decided on what technology will be used for those that can not get FTTH. They will have to compete or lose out to cable in markets where FTTH isn't as profitable.
I suspect some form of wireless in the 'real' rural areas.
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Richard B
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join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Don't look for Fios in rural areas - maybe ever
I would say dittos with apartments. I am very skeptical we will see fiber. |
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XBL2009
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL | Stop blocking City Fiber then...
If Verizon has secretly decided not to build in rural areas those areas should be free to build there own fiber networks. |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA
| Why is it so tough to string fiber on utility poles?
Will the Corning fiber always be too expensive to string on telephone poles in rural areas? I'm not sure you can make that assumption. Granted, burying cable is expensive, but that's not what we are talking about.
I remember when Continental Cablevision hung their cable here. The procedure was almost identical to the one Verizon used to hang FiOS.
Unless someone knows that the cost of the fiber cable itself will never come down, I don't see how you can speculate that Verizon can't eventually have the same or larger footprint as cable.
For maintenance reasons, Verizon has a motivation to replace as much copper as possible. |
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | What was the question again?
Having re-read the Reuters article, I would really like to see a transcript of the Reuters interview. Just exactly did Ritsuko Ando ask that prompted the "another approach" answer? |
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jarthur31
join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Don't look for Fios in rural areas - maybe ever
I totally agree with your assessment. Broadband took awhile to get here and since the phone company will never upgrade their DSL to fiber here, I don't expect the cable company to do so either (give faster speeds). |
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jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to XBL2009
Re: Stop blocking City Fiber then...
Some rural areas are lucky to have money to plow roads and have a county sheriff patrol once a day, and many have very minimal local government at all. Good luck with that... |
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key point
@mcleodusa.net
| Key point
I think the key point here that I have yet to see others address is that Verizon is positioning themselves as THE provider of residential network traffic. It is merely a matter of time before copper lines simply cost too much to maintain and cannot compete with services and speed. So what's the local cableco or other baby bell going to do? run a second fiber strand to every home fios already serves? Probably not since there is no profitability there. The chances of having two companies drop fiber to every home is virtually none. Verizon has wisely been able to get their board and shareholders to agree to the decision that guarantees them to be in business and likely a monopoly into the future.
In 5-10 years when comcast (or whoever) figures out that fios speeds of 150-300 mbit symmetrical for 30 dollars a month cannot simply be affordable on their HFC network, they can try and get their shareholders and board to fork over billions just to add a second strand of fiber to homes already served by fiber, and they would have to come in at or below a competing company (verizon) who's burdened cost will already be much lower... it simply will not happen (unless verizon are idiots).
So all the video, phone, internet providers who's market overlays FIOS are screwed. The race was the fastest to get fiber to the home and verizon is not only winning, but they are the only ones even trying.
In the midwest and west, it's still up for grabs, which company is going to take it? |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to Richard B
Re: Don't look for Fios in rural areas - maybe ever
I don't know- Verizon really wants the New York City market, and to do that they'll have to figure out apartments. |
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WA Resident
@Level3.net
| Re: Verizon: Our Focus Remains On FTTH
Verizon can keep their DSL and Fios!
They can't offer Symmetrical 100Mbps speeds they already offer here.
Yes, i live in a rural area served by Verizon in "backward" Washington state. Even some little towns with less than 300 people have access to FTTP and all thanks to the local county PUDs. There's at least 3 county PUDs that have built (and continue) all fiber networks straight to the premises.
so, thanks again for nothing verizon!
»www.localtelonline.com/grf.htm
»www.gcpud.org/
»https://fiber.chelanpud.org/euedu/
»www.dccn.net/
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dynodb
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Minneapolis, MN | reply to key point
Re: Key point
said by key point :
In 5-10 years when comcast (or whoever) figures out that fios speeds of 150-300 mbit symmetrical for 30 dollars a month... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... thanks for the laugh. |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | more like what you been smoking  |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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Re: Don't look for Fios in rural areas - maybe ever
said by Richard B :I would say dittos with apartments. I am very skeptical we will see fiber. If Verizon wants, they can just send a letter to the super that the POTS to a particular building is being retired on XX/XX/XXXX, if no arrangements are made to upgrade the demarc, the building will loose all service b/c of lack of access to the demarc/ROW. End of story. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to jester121
Re: Stop blocking City Fiber then...
Tax more then. |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | reply to patcat88
Re: Don't look for Fios in rural areas - maybe ever
And then the apartment building can get Comcast Digital Voice! |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
1 edit | And file a complaint with the local PUC. |
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Anoni Moose
@kentrox.com
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Re: Stop blocking City Fiber then...
said by XBL2009 :If Verizon has secretly decided not to build in rural areas those areas should be free to build there own fiber networks. Aren't they free to do so at any time they want to? I know of at least one or two tiny towns that put in their own fiber system quite some time ago. |
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