rantou
join:2002-06-04
Richardson, TX | Unfiltered, unlimited?!?
I wonder if along with VoIP blocking they will also block underage pornography?!? |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
 ·Cox HSI
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
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·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP
| Server could cache popular pages
Like back in the @Home days where some @Home providers like Cox used proxy servers to cache popular sites. And with 800GB, it could cache a TON of pages whenever at the gate.
And a 800GB server would also be cool for streaming PPVs to laptops. They could easily charge $5 for a movie that plays through a special American Airlines portal-ware (similar to Netflix's clientware). |
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Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
clubs:
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to rantou
Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!?
I don't wanna sit next to some guy getting a stiffy watching some pron (illegal or not) I mean you've got idiots who go to public libraries and wack off to pron whats stopping the same idiots from a flight YOU CAN'T GET OFF OF?
block porn and voip please if you want real time communication use IM.
@Chiyo: The plane is taking off
@Chiyo: The plane is sinking in the ocean
@chiyo: The rescue boats haven't come yet
@Chiyo: Sharks are around us please help |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FIOS
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1 edit | reply to rantou
They said they aren't. They're going to rely on passengers not being dumbasses and the flight crew. They say the flight crew will handle complaints just as they would if someone brought aboard a porno mag or DVD.
They mention another airline tried filters but they got complaints of the filters blocking legit sites and ended up turning off the filters. |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | AAAAAAHHH!
NETWORK NEUTRALITY, NETWORK NEUTRALITY!!
C'mon people, let's stir up some trouble, these rich corporate fat cats can't mess with our VOIP.
/sarcasm |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to rantou
Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!?
alright, with a power jack one could waste away that 6hr flight playing WoW!. latency would suck but just to say you have gamed from 35,000ft.....
blocking VOIP is a good thing as people have proven they cant be polite on trains with their cellphones and in a plane you cant just get up and goto another car.
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koitsu
Premium
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
| reply to Chiyo
said by Chiyo  :... whats stopping the same idiots from a flight YOU CAN'T GET OFF OF? Or from a flight you can't get off on.
I made a funny! Come on, it was funny. Laugh dammit. |
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JohnQPublic
Premium
join:2002-03-22
Xanadu
| reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather :They're going to rely on passengers not being dumbasses and the flight crew. They say the flight crew will handle complaints just as they would if someone brought aboard a porno mag or DVD. You mean the same people that have to watch out for people lighting their shoes on fire, firing up cigarettes, getting drunk and screaming obscenities, running to the door and trying to open it up midflight, et al.?
So much for the days when they just had to play with the flotation device, oxygen masks, magazines, and refreshments.  |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Kearnstd
Latency is the issue.
I know connecting to Skype across a throttled VPN, tunnelled SSH throught a squid proxy half way across the country is enough to make it unusable. The throttled connection makes latency spikes too high to be usable.
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NickD
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join:2000-11-17
Princeton Junction, NJ
clubs: | VoIP Blocks
Do they block VoIP because of interference to the equipment? That's why they block cell phones now. |
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funchords
Hello
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join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
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1 edit | reply to jester121
Re: AAAAAAHHH!
said by jester121 :NETWORK NEUTRALITY, NETWORK NEUTRALITY!! C'mon people, let's stir up some trouble, these rich corporate fat cats can't mess with our VOIP. /sarcasm I'm not sarcastic at all. Prohibit voice calls by creating new rules or enforcing existing rules about disturbing behavior.
Network filters all seem to have unwanted side effects -- not just technically, but on the policy side as well.
Why can't someone silently use VOIP with a Text-to-speech and a speech-to-text converter?
said by en102 :Latency is the issue. I know connecting to Skype across a throttled VPN, tunnelled SSH throught a squid proxy half way across the country is enough to make it unusable. The throttled connection makes latency spikes too high to be usable. Exactly. So let that be the natural "filter," and leave the tubes alone and uninspected!
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DCloutier
Premium
join:2008-04-27
Calgary, AB | reply to en102
Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!?
What about the server running its own DNS Server? or caching DNS entries? Wouldn't this speed it up? |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| reply to NickD
Re: VoIP Blocks
I can't see why VoIP would interfere and other uses of internet wouldn't, though...
Though, I suppose if you're using a VoIP handset, they wouldn't be able to tell if you were using VoIP (permitted) or cell-phone (banned)... That could be an issue. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to NickD
said by NickD :Do they block VoIP because of interference to the equipment? That's why they block cell phones now. hahahahahahaaaa |
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Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ
clubs: | reply to NickD
I hope you're being sarcastic. I really do. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to rantou
Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!?
even caching dns would have minor latency, however gaming would just be for the humor of trying it from an airplane. in truth you would be best off camping DSLR and checking email. 
of course business folks will likely be expected to in the near future VPN in from the plane.
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maartena
Super Grover
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd :alright, with a power jack one could waste away that 6hr flight playing WoW!. latency would suck but just to say you have gamed from 35,000ft..... You would not enjoy it. The satellites for communication are in geo-stationary orbit at 35.000 km (or roughly 20.000 miles) above the earth. The entire return ping would be somewhere around 700 to 800ms.
For website browsing or chatting, such latency doesn't matter. Even for streaming video it is not a problem. It may take a few seconds more for the stream to get started, and you may need a little more buffering, but it'll work.
And quite frankly, this type of internet is meant for that kind of stuff: webbrowsing, e-mail, IM chatting, etc.
And I would really not mind if they block all porn/shady websites. I don't mind the guy next to me reading up on his stocks or chatting to the misstress... but I could really do without people right next to me trying to skype home or watching porn flicks. |
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maartena
Super Grover
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
2 edits | reply to NickD
Re: VoIP Blocks
said by NickD :Do they block VoIP because of interference to the equipment? That's why they block cell phones now.  |
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Toadman
Hypnotoad
join:2001-11-28
Medina, OH
| reply to maartena
Re: Unfiltered, unlimited?!?
said by maartena :said by Kearnstd :alright, with a power jack one could waste away that 6hr flight playing WoW!. latency would suck but just to say you have gamed from 35,000ft..... You would not enjoy it. The satellites for communication are in geo-stationary orbit at 35.000 km (or roughly 20.000 miles) above the earth. The entire return ping would be somewhere around 700 to 800ms. For website browsing or chatting, such latency doesn't matter. Even for streaming video it is not a problem. It may take a few seconds more for the stream to get started, and you may need a little more buffering, but it'll work. And quite frankly, this type of internet is meant for that kind of stuff: webbrowsing, e-mail, IM chatting, etc. And I would really not mind if they block all porn/shady websites. I don't mind the guy next to me reading up on his stocks or chatting to the misstress... but I could really do without people right next to me trying to skype home or watching porn flicks. Aircell uses towers on the ground, not sat communication. |
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Hehe
@ssa.gov | net neutrality?
Would net neutrality allow them to block VOIP?
I guess they should block torrents too. |
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