  fdf
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| Stingy with the uploads much?
Wow Very stingy the higherst tier is 20:1 ratio... Pathetic |
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  PhoenixDown -- Wants FIOS Premium join:2003-06-08 Fresh Meadows, NY clubs:   | Can the NYC market handle it?
A lot of NYC area users are not even getting the advertised speeds during rush hour - will powerboost be any boost at all?
»[TWC] NYC Slow Speeds |
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  Dogfather Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA
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4 edits | $70 for 20/1? Ouch
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This is their response to NYC FiOS? Nationally Verizon prices 20/5 for $58 unbundled and NYC typically gets even better pricing. For that $70 you get 20/20 from Verizon in that market. And if I'm not mistaken that NYC market gets 50/20 for something like $90/mo. (These prices reflect the how dare you not have POTS fee of $5, if you have Verizon's rip-off voice service prices are $5 less).
RR Basic: 1.5Mbps/256Kbps Verizon: No lite tier
RR Standard: 10Mbps/512kbps $44.95 Verizon Standard: 10/2 $48 unbundled ($43 bundled)
RR Turbo: 15Mbps/768kbps $54.90 Verizon FiOS: 20/5 $58 ($53 bundled)
RR Extreme: 20Mbps/1Mbps $69.90 Verizon FiOS: 20/20 $69 ($65 bundled)
TWC is going to have to do better than that. Add traffic shaping on top and TWC is a joke.
If someone in the NYC market can let us know if NYC prices differ that would be great. |
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 Tint
join:2003-08-06 Yuma, AZ
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So I wonder whats gonna happen to the people who currently have the business class package with TWC/Roadrunner.
I'm paying $99.95 a month for 15000/2000 speed
On a side note, most sites cant even keep up with my download speed. At 15000 down I can only download as fast as the site is willing to upload to me and so far not many sites can push info to me quick enough to keep up with my download speed. |
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  TKJunkMail Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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2 edits | said by Tint :On a side note, most sites cant even keep up with my download speed. At 15000 down I can only download as fast as the site is willing to upload to me and so far not many sites can push info to me quick enough to keep up with my download speed. That is a point that most people overlook. Many web sites can't or won't deliver the speeds that many customers are capable of accepting during downloads. And that is when downloading large files.
When downloading web pages, even those with a lot of pics and graphics, avg speeds are at best about 700 or 800 kbps. Don't believe me - try out this web browsing test instead of the usual file transfer test: »www.numion.com/YourSpeed3/Run.ph···urfSpeed -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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  Pizz Hi
join:2000-10-27 Astoria, NY | reply to Dogfather Re: $70 for 20/1? Ouch
You cant get Turbo or Extreme Speeds anymore, due them not being 'able to support it'.
If you're a current user of Turbo and Extreme, you'll be lucky to get over 8mbs during peak times. |
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1Mbps is pretty generous for TWC... 512k is the highest upload speed offered by any company where I live.
TWC must have one of the most VARIED networks among all cable companies when it comes to speed.
Most cable operators now offer a near or above 1mbps upload option. TWC can't even figure that one out. More than just pathetic if you ask me.
I would love to see what kind of effect powerboost will have on customers that TWC is slapping a pathetic 20-40 GB cap on. |
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| It used to be the opposite. When I was in school, Time Warner in Upstate New York was at 3Mbps/384Kbps and Comcast was 1500/256Kbps, then 3Mbps/256Kbps. Comcast truly was the cable company left behind in upstream speeds until they upgraded to standard tiers of 6Mbps/1Mbps and 8Mbps/2Mbps.
TWC needs to make some moves and really needs to standardize more. I realize that the speeds are based on the local competition, but 512Kbps is quite paltry in comparison to most upload speeds these days. |
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You can't accurately gauge the speed of a broadband connection with small files, like with the test you posted. Even if you were on fiber, your results wouldn't likely be any better than a cable or dsl subscriber. And with a test like that specifically, you're dealing with a lot of latency waiting for so many different sites from around the world to resolve, handshake, and receive information from.
As for server's supporting fast download speeds... I don't know what type of sites you download from, but I haven't run into many issues. I do on occasion notice sites that seem to rate-limit downloads to say 3 or 5 mbps. But as far as it goes for me, I run/manage servers, and all my servers are connected with no less than multi-gigabit LAN connections, giving each server no less than 2Gbps of outgoing bandwidth. I have never had anyone tell me they couldn't get any less than their full downstream speed when downloading from my servers. It's really up to the website owner or company when it comes to what they can afford to offer their visitors. |
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 vick04
join:2006-08-06 South Richmond Hill, NY 2 edits | reply to fdf Re: Stingy with the uploads much?
Well it looks like the NYC powerboost thread just got closed. I take it one of the mods has been misinformed? That or this article needs to be retitled to "launching in a few areas..." |
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 daveberstein
join:2002-07-15 New York, NY
| No NY Powerboost in Speed Tests
Folks I just ran two DSL Reports speed tests here in Manhattan. One came in at 8 meg, one at 9 meg. I'd think if Powerboost was in I'd have seen some effect. (No, I didn't use the Speakeasy test that peaks out around 10 meg.)
I've been getting that 10 meg or so on downloads pretty consistently the last few weeks. I had to completely re-install Vista and all software, and it was great to have the speed.
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  wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Tint :On a side note, most sites cant even keep up with my download speed. At 15000 down I can only download as fast as the site is willing to upload to me and so far not many sites can push info to me quick enough to keep up with my download speed. That is a point that most people overlook. Many web sites can't or won't deliver the speeds that many customers are capable of accepting during downloads. And that is when downloading large files. When downloading web pages, even those with a lot of pics and graphics, avg speeds are at best about 700 or 800 kbps. Don't believe me - try out this web browsing test instead of the usual file transfer test: » www.numion.com/YourSpeed3/Run.ph···urfSpeed You are correct, yet people still dont seem to get it. They assume that if they get a higher capacity connection, then everything on the 'net will be faster. As you (and many others) have pointed out, we are all limited to the speed the site we are connecting to can upload the data to us. Unfortunately, the (vast majority of) sites that can support higher bandwidth end users are those that illegally distribute music and movies. I suspect that as higher bandwidth connections become more prevalent then more websites (legal ones) will increase their upload as well. -- If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. -Ronald Reagan-
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  Tzale Proud Libertarian Conservative Premium join:2004-01-06 Sweden | CRAP!
What a bunch of crap... Sub 1mbps upload on ANY cable package is a rip off! And only 1mbps upload for 20mbps download?
-Tzale |
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  RARPSL
join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | Cablevision is better in their part of NYC
TWC shares NYC with Cablevision. In the CV areas you get 15/2 for $49 ($44 bundled) and 30/5 for $15 more ($10 more if you have VoIP). Thus the TWC speeds still come up short - especially up the Up Speeds. |
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  Dogfather Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 2 edits | reply to RR User Re: Stingy with the uploads much?
For SoCal the RR Extreme tier has been 15/2 for $55 for a long time. I had it before switching to FiOS. And it was cheaper than Verizon's month-month price. Seems like this is a step backward. |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC | reply to Pizz Re: $70 for 20/1? Ouch
Yep, we just switched a user to Verizon DSL because his Road Runner couldn't even support a VoIP call during peak hours. It was awful. |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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said by Tint :So I wonder whats gonna happen to the people who currently have the business class package with TWC/Roadrunner. I'm paying $99.95 a month for 15000/2000 speed On a side note, most sites cant even keep up with my download speed. At 15000 down I can only download as fast as the site is willing to upload to me and so far not many sites can push info to me quick enough to keep up with my download speed. I have a 15Mbps connection and I max it out most of the time when I am downloading things. |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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| reply to TKJunkMail said by TKJunkMail :said by Tint :On a side note, most sites cant even keep up with my download speed. At 15000 down I can only download as fast as the site is willing to upload to me and so far not many sites can push info to me quick enough to keep up with my download speed. That is a point that most people overlook. Many web sites can't or won't deliver the speeds that many customers are capable of accepting during downloads. And that is when downloading large files. When downloading web pages, even those with a lot of pics and graphics, avg speeds are at best about 700 or 800 kbps. Don't believe me - try out this web browsing test instead of the usual file transfer test: » www.numion.com/YourSpeed3/Run.ph···urfSpeed That test is extremely flawed. Those itty bitty web graphics are a few KB in size, so even if you download them all at once, it'll only take a few hundred Kbps to download them all in one second.
If you start browsing sites like MySpace, you'll notice a HUGE difference between a 768Kbps DSL line and a 15Mbps connection.
Any media rich site is going to have the file sizes needed to tax an internet connection. Loading a bunch of web logos simply won't. |
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  Dogfather Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | reply to Matt Re: $70 for 20/1? Ouch
I'm sure TWC's OWN VoIP service ran just fine. How convenient. |
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 tmc8080
join:2004-04-24 Floral Park, NY
| A powerboost across from a another powerboost?
»youtube.com/watch?v=Z9iMgSNrwv4
I wonder, who are the people that would need a Starbucks across a Starbucks?
Answer: It must be a community filled with people with Alzheimer's.
Might these be the same TWC subscribers who thought things would miraculously get better just because they revamped powerboost? |
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