pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA | Bought And Paid For. Business As Usual.
No surprise that money has talked, again.
These filthy slime in Congress are all a disgrace. Even the ones that didn't hand out a "Free Pass" are guilty of taking money, just from someone else. I say out with the whole damn lot. |
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | *Sigh*
Why do I suspect that this will only give the telcos more time to fatten the wallets of the potential opposition?
Of course, I'd LOVE to be wrong...  |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
1 edit | reply to pabster
Re: Bought And Paid For. Business As Usual.
Money talks. By all Means Obama and McCain are both Cowards in this respect.
McCain told us that Telecom Immunity was a VIOLATION of American rights and cannot be tolerated. Yet, he staffs himself with Telco executives and has a sudden change of heart.
Now Obama is flip flopping too.
I don't trust either of these guy. Both are tried and true politicians in definition. Shrewd and lacking any respect for the people they claim to represent. |
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texans20
Weapons of Masturbation
Premium
join:2002-09-28
Texas!
clubs:
| I wonder...
I wonder what Obama's position will be after the holiday? He will now have over a week to decide. Judging by his past, he will not be available to vote so he can be a coward and try to please both sides.
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | reply to Desdinova
Re: *Sigh*
At least this buys us some time.
If our politicians are going to be bought, I would prefer it costs the buyers as much as possible. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Karl, where does the law provide CRIMINAL immunity?
You say this law gives the telcos "get out of jail free" cards.
My understanding is that the immunity is only CIVIL immunity, that is, individuals can't sue the companies for this stuff. It does not grant criminal immunity. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | F Congress, G-D whores
When I don't work I don't get paid. They don't work, it doesn't matter.
Serving in Congress is just one long paid vacation. |
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Blackened
Your Freedom Fries Are Stale
join:2003-09-29
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Re: Bought And Paid For. Business As Usual.
said by jc100  :Money talks. By all Means Obama and McCain are both Cowards in this respect. McCain told us that Telecom Immunity was a VIOLATION of American rights and cannot be tolerated. Yet, he staffs himself with Telco executives and has a sudden change of heart. Now Obama is flip flopping too. I don't trust either of these guy. Both are tried and true politicians in definition. Shrewd and lacking any respect for the people they claim to represent. All too true.
Screw 'em both. Damn sellouts. The Democrat, Republican nonsense has long been a farce.
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Moore/Alexander 2008
Conservatives love religious-like aphorisms so here's one: "Freedom isn't free. It's Made in China." |
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | reply to Lazlow
Re: *Sigh*
And that is a position I have no argument with! Unless, of course, they pass the cost of those bribes, uh, "donations" on to the customers...*grin* |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs:
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Re: Karl, where does the law provide CRIMINAL immunity?
said by Dogfather :You say this law gives the telcos "get out of jail free" cards. My understanding is that the immunity is only CIVIL immunity, that is, individuals can't sue the companies for this stuff. It does not grant criminal immunity. But isn't that basically granting immunity for all of it? You don't see the DOJ knocking down the door to prosecute this thing do we?
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Scoot_NJ
join:2007-09-25
Budd Lake, NJ
1 edit | I'll repeat here what I posted in a similar thread this morn
I see a LOT of 9/10 attitude in a post 9/11 world!
dodd is a political whore who has now found something to go on about to divert attention to his own problems:
»redfishemergingmarkets.com/blog/···is-dodd/
This is also the guy who told former klansman, Sen. robert byrd of W.V., that the world would be a better place if byrd had become President. This AFTER The former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said a similar thing to Sen. Strom Thurmond and lost his majority position in the senate. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| Right, it was the big money....
Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint gave PAC contributions averaging:
$9,659 to each member of the House voting "YES" (105-Dem, 188-Rep)
$4,810 to each member of the House voting "NO" (128-Dem, 1-Rep) Yeah, Karl- no question it was that massive $5,000 extra in campaign contributions that swayed their vote. Couldn't possibly be because they thought it was the right thing to do, now could it?  |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ | reply to Dogfather
Re: Karl, where does the law provide CRIMINAL immunity?
There used to be a document on the Senate web site describing the immunity bill. It said it only covered civil actions, and only for telco behavior between 9/11 (2001) to Jan. 17(?) 2007.
Mark |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
1 edit | reply to Dogfather
Re: F Congress, G-D whores
i wish i had a six figure job with the ability to not come in every day and not find my stuff in a box at the security desk the next time i tried to card into the building.
When I don't work I don't get paid. They don't work, it doesn't matter.
Serving in Congress is just one long paid vacation.
and if you decide to go fishing during work days you find yourself without a job like any other working stiff. congressman have missed important votes and dont even get yelled at. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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Re: Right, it was the big money....
said by dynodb :Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint gave PAC contributions averaging:
$9,659 to each member of the House voting "YES" (105-Dem, 188-Rep)
$4,810 to each member of the House voting "NO" (128-Dem, 1-Rep) I'd be curious where you get your information from. Could you link to that page where the above referenced was copied from or would it be too embarrassing for you to link to Rush's home page? |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
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Re: I'll repeat here what I posted in a similar thread this morn
said by Scoot_NJ :This is also the guy who told former klansman, Sen. robert byrd of W.V., that the world would be a better place if byrd had become President. This AFTER The former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said a similar thing to Sen. Strom Thurmond and lost his majority position in the senate. You forget. It is OK to be racist if you are a Democrat.
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Surprised?
Could it be possible that Obama finally realized that he might end up having to actually protect the nation and that he'd be hamstringing his own administratation? Could it be? |
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tdouglas22
join:2001-09-25
Memphis, TN | write in now
Would it be too late to send those letters to our representatives to reject this bill?? |
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chronoss2008
Premium
join:2008-03-29
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico
| What the delay means
What they mean is they want to delay the padding of there wallets for a job well done and to prove the ultimate coruption of the US GOVT, pats own back , hrm wait i didn't get nothing in fact your the spying bastard commie terrorists
ok calm down. They just the phone company..... |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
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Re: Karl, where does the law provide CRIMINAL immunity?
said by kfsutops :But isn't that basically granting immunity for all of it? You don't see the DOJ knocking down the door to prosecute this thing do we? You are correct. Odd that fact keeps getting overlooked. |
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