  Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
| It's so hard to read the words that come..
out of this companies mouth about this.
"It's the cable industry" that's behind the vrad opposition they say.
Well..jeesh..I wonder if it might be the homeowners who have these refrigerators planted on their lawns and streets that really might be the ones with the problem?
AT&T..can you try to get a clue about this? The problem people have with you is your bullying of communities..your "damned we're doing this whether you like it or not" attitude.
And your rollout of a project that should simply never have seen the light of day...AKA..Uverse.
Don't your executives read the news? Read the BBR forums? Read ANYTHING about what is occurring in the industry?
HDTV and HSI..particularly for the NEXT generation simply isn't going to cut it delivered via old copper twisted pair lines.
And when you are shaking up communities installing these vrads to deliver something like that..it gives even more reason for people to say...WHY? And to say..it simply shouldn't be allowed.
People, Including myself..have no opposition whatsoever to what Verizon is doing. They are also disrupting communities..but doing so in such a way as to be RESPECTFUL to the communities..and RESPECTFUL to the law..and RESPECTFUL to what is truly a next generation product.
People in turn..can RESPECT that. And RESPECT the efforts of that company in their effort to compete.
This is not the CABLE INDUSTRY behind it.
It is PEOPLE..your potential CUSTOMERS..and non customers alike..who are behind it. And who are saying to you..
You need to change. Or you are going to not make it.
You are not going to make it by blaming everyone else.
The blame sits squarely on your own shoulders. On the decision makers..who have devised such a poor..
such a failed strategy for tomorrows world.
As of last quarters report..you had amassed less than 400,000 customers for Uverse. Is that because of the cable industry? Is that because of rants of people like me who have been very vocal about this?
Or is it quite simply..that no one really wants what it is you have to sell?
I say it's the latter.
Without a doubt.
What is occurring here at BBR is a microcosm of the community. Look at the verizon forum talk. Look at the excitement around Fios. The people who want it..welcome it.. anticipate it.
And then look at Uverse forums and talk around this website.
The exact opposite for the most part.
AT&T..this is YOUR Fault.
No one elses.
Stop blaming people. And get with the program. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! |
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  Matt Take me down to the paradise city Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC
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said by Article : With their previously strained relationship now smooth, AT&T says they'll continue their $250 million network upgrades in the state, something they claim wouldn't have happened "if the [DPUC] had said something different," according to AT&T spokesman Dave Mancuso.
That's the corporate equivalent of saying, "We would have taken our ball and gone home." How childish can you really get?  |
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  battleop
join:2005-09-28 00000
| reply to Rick Re: It's so hard to read the words that come..
par·a·graph (pr-grf) n. 1. A distinct division of written or printed matter that begins on a new, usually indented line, consists of one or more sentences, and typically deals with a single thought or topic or quotes one speaker's continuous words. 2. A mark ( ¶ ) used to indicate where a new paragraph should begin or to serve as a reference mark. 3. A brief article, notice, or announcement, as in a newspaper. tr.v. par·a·graphed, par·a·graph·ing, par·a·graphs To divide or arrange into paragraphs. |
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  GlobalMind Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy Premium join:2001-10-29 Hollywood, FL
| This again?
I know a lot of folks have complained about these things, and I know there have been a good number of people on these forums who've said basically "tough crap, deal with it" or "I'd love to have one here!"
Of course generally none of these folks have actually had one plunked down in front of their house, so it's a pretty funny read.
I can totally understand where the folks who have had the things dropped in are coming from, although there is certainly some degree of "what else can we do?" at play here.
Certainly if you have an easement in the back yard between properties like our old place did, that would be the ideal location. From the photo included here that seems to be th case although there isn't much context there.
What I think is really unacceptable are the ones they drop immediately in front of the house. Easement or not, what you can do and what you should do are different. Those certainly would effect a property's value.
Too bad really AT&T wants to compete but in doing so this is what they come up with. And no AT&T it isn't the cable industry that's behind it, LOL what a laugh. -- TheGlobalMind.com | Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go? | Trust the instinct to the end, though you can render no reason. Ralph Waldo Emerson
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  supergirl
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Actually, with the massive foreclosures, property values suck anyway and AT&T is deploying this stuff where nobody will live anymore soon. 
Personally, I think AT&T should pay rent if you don't use them. If they don't pay rent, you can always have some crooked salvage yard come and get that box. Or, you can make sure the water sprinkler hits it 4 hours a day at night.  -- Saving the world keeps me busy. However, I find Earth very primitive from my home planet of Krypton. -Supergirl |
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  Nightfall My Goal Is To Deny Yours Premium,MVM join:2001-08-03 Grand Rapids, MI
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| reply to battleop said by battleop :par·a·graph (pr-grf) n. 1. A distinct division of written or printed matter that begins on a new, usually indented line, consists of one or more sentences, and typically deals with a single thought or topic or quotes one speaker's continuous words. 2. A mark ( ¶ ) used to indicate where a new paragraph should begin or to serve as a reference mark. 3. A brief article, notice, or announcement, as in a newspaper. tr.v. par·a·graphed, par·a·graph·ing, par·a·graphs To divide or arrange into paragraphs. Just looking at your past experience on these forums, I think even you could learn from your own definition.
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 DJ_Kismuth
join:2001-11-25 Chicago, IL
| Not Worth It
I wouldn't want that ugly thing in my yard for a wimpy 6Mbps DSL service. pffft. 
And yes, the 1st poster's comment was terribly formatted and just as ugly to look at as those VRADs. |
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  battleop
join:2005-09-28 00000 | reply to Nightfall Re: It's so hard to read the words that come..
I don't think you will ever see me posting one line ramblings like that. |
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  yock TFTC Premium join:2000-11-21 Fairfield, OH | reply to Rick In order to spin this as a positive they needed a villain, and that villain could never be their customers. So they blame a faceless entity that can't defend itself: the cable industry. |
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  Dogfather Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | reply to battleop He's used to working off talking points. |
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 bogey780
join:2004-03-19 Here | reply to DJ_Kismuth Re: Not Worth It
Acgtually it's 10Mb/s service. Also if you wanted 25Mb/s service you'd need one. |
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  yock TFTC Premium join:2000-11-21 Fairfield, OH
| reply to supergirl Re: It's so hard to read the words that come..
said by supergirl :Actually, with the massive foreclosures, property values suck anyway and AT&T is deploying this stuff where nobody will live anymore soon.  Actually, there are U-Verse cabinets behind my girlfriend's apartment, so they're servicing rental properties too. |
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  Transmaster Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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| reply to battleop What a butt munch, you can't fault what Rick said so instead you take the limp wristed way out by gracing us with your stunning ablilty to cut and paste crap from someplace else. In otherwords who died and made you the grammer God. -- Send a prayer to Allah, eat Beans. |
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  morbo Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs: | AT&T opposed to "retroactive consent"?
AT&T is opposed to "retroactive consent" when it comes to lawn fridges, but when it comes to retroactive immunity they are all for it.
consistently horrible. |
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  RR User
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| reply to DJ_Kismuth Re: Not Worth It
I can only see one benefit having one of those things on your yard. At such a short distance from the home, your VDSL gateway should be synced at 100-200 Mbps, easy. AT&T should offer those that do have to put up with these things on their yard with service that makes use of all that speed, instead of just capping the internet to 10 Mbps, leaving TV to chew up the rest, which it possibly cant.
So if you could get 50-100+ Mbps internet plus enough capacity to drive every HD tv in your house simultaneously, is it worth it? I know it's bigger than a satellite dish... but with some creative landscaping, you could at least make it look like your trying to hide it. lol |
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  anon74
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| Stop Whining
I say put them there and screw what people think about it, People are going to complain no matter what anyways. |
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  swhitney2003 I can't drive 55. Premium join:2003-06-13 NH clubs:  | reply to RR User Re: Not Worth It
Build a walled garden around the VRAD :-P |
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 Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL | reply to battleop Re: It's so hard to read the words that come..
It is not fair to criticize someone for grammatical issues. At least they took the time to display their thoughts on this forum. |
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  battleop
join:2005-09-28 00000 | Read this »Why on Earth... and you will understand what I am talking about. |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | reply to Mr Matt I personally don't criticize his grammar, however, a well written and thought out statement typically makes a point clear, and more people will read concise statements. -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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