 houghe9
join:2008-02-27
Lexington Park, MD
|  You will not use our pipe to go elswhere for entertainment!!
The caps they are implementing are laughable and serve no purpose but to stifle any competition. With fios and most broadband moving forward this would just seem to be a horrible business decision to try to go backwards.
Could you imagine being at the meeting where some idiot came in and said, "I know what will put us on top!!!!". Waiting in eager anticipation you hear, "5gb usage caps".
I have often not agreed with management, but with ideas like that...wow! Given many years experience of playing politics and kissing ass; I dont believe it is possible that I could come close to blowing the sheer amount of smoke up someones ass it would take to make someone think this was a good idea. WOW! This confirms it. TEXAS really is the land of BULLS..t. | |
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Anon3
@rr.com
| Caps This is just Time Warner's way of killing the competition for video streaming and Movie download services. If they can sell you a Video on demand for $3.99 versus you downloading from Netflix or one of the other services, then they get your dollar instead.....
It's all about the dollar.
If you have to pay for exceeding your "Caps" then you wont use the other services, and Time Warner makes more money.
This falls under the same guise as Network Neutrality.
They want control, to control your dollar... Nothing More!!! | |
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JusticeDun
join:2004-10-15
Okeana, OH
| Do your part to stop this If you don't want this to take hold then everybody has to do their part to make sure it doesn't happen. People need to get the word out on this before it's too late.
I know I do my part. I deal with people everyday and I make it a point to inform them of this plan the ISP's have cooked up.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to contact your Representatives and demand they take action on these monopolies to prevent this from happening.
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 | lvlorpheus
join:2008-02-17
Eureka Springs, AR
1 edit | Re: Do your part to stop this I inform everyone I can too. I just had a thought and I am sure someone here will be better able to explain what I am thinking.
From what I understand the cost to provide a MB/GB of data is pretty cheap. My thought/Question is how much profit does a MB/GB generate in advertising. I am thinking a lot more than it cost to put that ad out there. I have Alltel "still unlimited" evdo as my only real option for internet. If I have to work around caps when Verizon takes over I will have to turn off "load images automatically." I will save data usage and will look for more ways to cut my data use. That will force more and more advertising off of the net, and the ISP's will lose money and will have plenty of dormant service making no profit. If ad revenue takes a sharp drop they might rethink there caps. Tell everyone if they are being hit with predatory caps to turn the table around and become the predator of the ISP's ad profits. The ISP's want to cap people, but then they want to use some of your cap to make money from ad from you. Just to prove my point of predatory: if I would of had to pay my evdo bill based on Verizon's policies last year. I would of had to pay over $100,000 for less than 300 GB of internet usage. Thats less than 1 GB a day used. I don't know about the rest of you, but I will never see how less than 300 GB of data is worth a new home in many markets in this country. And I will never see how that is not predatory, and good for Americans.
Edit Just added the info below.
The #5 cell provider not once in anyway every voiced any problem or concern or request to limit my usage.
Makes me wonder why the #2 soon to be the #1 cell provider is not able to equal or out do the the #5 cell provider.
Alltel is a profitable company, and this will be the second time they have been bought in a year. They also have that other little thing going for them "HAPPY CUSTOMERS." What a concept.
I also would like to know if TW test mark is in a competitive market or if they are the only provider of broadband in the test area. If they are the only provider its not much of a test.
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| My connection is 10 down, 1up.... ...and the speedtests tell me that I am pretty much ALWAYS get that speed, regardless of the time of day.
So explain to me, how is a data cap going to "make my internet experience better" then it already is?
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| bgraham
join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: My connection is 10 down, 1up.... Marketing people tell you either what they want you to believe or what they think you want to hear. Any connection to the truth is purely coincidental.
The first assumption of any marketing people is that their customers are dumb enough to believe anything they are told. | |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| CAPS=lack of competitition in a majority of markets The reason that cable will be able to institute caps is that the deployment of FIOS is still limited and may be for quite a while. Yes, there are plans by some providers to build it out in more markets, but until the networks are actually deployed those plans can get derailed, especially in a weakening economy. For those of you fortunate to be living in a FIOS market now, count your lucky stars. The rest of us may not see it for a long time, if ever. In most markets, the only competition that cable ISPs have is slower DSL. In some markets, they may not have any competition. The American consumer has become complacent about price increases, in part due to the fact that credit has proliferated and people find it easier to pay more than complain (to companies and politicians) and take action--like boycotting. I do think this is wrong-headed timing. They will loose some customers whose budgets are being squeezed by inflation. The old saying, "You can't squeeze blood from a turnip." is true--American consumers are getting tapped out and those selling non-essential services should heed the impact inflation is having on the average American, who most certainly isn't earing a triple-digit salary. | |
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Mortis
Premium
join:2001-12-07
Clearlake, CA
clubs:
1 edit | Marketing lies strike again! Cheaper rates, faster connections and network neutrality are the only things that make my Internet experience 'better'.
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Pashune
Inhaling at 675 KB per sec.
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Gautier, MS
·CableOne
 ·AT&T Southeast
| Wow. I realize that TWC has implemented some horrible, horrible caps but I simply had to laugh out loud when I read this:
quote:
So you can better understand what level you should choose, 1GB gets you about 70,000 e-mails, 34 hours of gaming or 1,344 hours of Web browsing; or, it’s the approximate equivalent of downloading 569 photos, 277 music files, 7 hours of low-resolution video (YouTube), 3 hours of standard definition streaming video or 45 minutes of high-definition streaming video.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Why is it. . . . . When the sub is getting fucked over, its in the name of enhanced experience or enhanced service when its REALLY corporate GREED plain and simple.
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scoopy03
join:2003-05-06
00000
·Verizon FIOS
| 5gb cap is crap i just got a bandwidth monitor after reading this thread. my rebuilt computer has only been up a month (a month this sunday) same as when i was able to get fios. my hd had 120gb free now it only has 70.6gb free. so i probably had easily 50gb bandwidth in the past month. that was alot of game downloading and picture downloads. i just got up to 150mb in 2 hours just surfing the web and watching a 22min video. my typical use is around 5 hours a day. 150mbx2.5 (to get to 5 hours rough estimate) 375mb a day if watched around 1 hour of videos a day. 375mb x 30days = 11250mb or about 10gb i would be over and thats even without any gaming at all. i understand i have 10/2 package but 5gb is really easy to hit. as mentioned before couple games off of steam like counterstrike source or even getting america's army is 1gb+ for one game. roughly any current "broadband" connection can get 1gb file (if max speed was allowed) in a day. that only would leave 4gb with 29 days left. digital pictures last i checked were from 1mb to 2mb per picture. if you go through 1000 hi-quality pictures thats another 2gb.
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Make Your Internet Experience Better sure when i cut the cable off then my experience will be better much better. No Bs | |
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Dryvlyne
Far Beyond Driven
Premium
join:2004-08-30
Newark, OH
|  Send TWC a message...
As a TWC Roadrunner subscriber I feel compelled to let you know how very concerned I am about the Roadrunner bandwidth caps that are currently being trialed in Beumont, Texas. As a reasonable person, I can certainly understand the need to prevent excessive bandwidth users from degrading the performance of the network as a whole. However, the current cap tiers that are being trialed are simply absurd now matter how the Marketing department tries to spin it, especially considering the wholesale cost at which TWC acquires bandwidth. If Comcast can afford to implement a very consumer-friendly cap of 250GB per month per user then I certainly expect that TWC can offer caps that are at least competitive if not better.
I will continue to monitor this situation in the news in the coming months and will be sure to keep my friends and family informed on the subject. Needless to say, I find the current cap tiers completely unacceptable as a customer and am more than willing to switch services to my local DSL provider should the current cap tiers be rolled out in my area. If you care to see a sampling of what other TWC users think of your plans then I highly suggest reading the comments posted to this DSLReports.com news item and periodically monitoring comments posted at the DSLReports.com TWC Roadrunner forum.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
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arafey
@snet.net | B***s*** That really ruined my day. I mean goddamn how stupid do they think we are?????!!!!! | |
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wispalord
join:2007-09-20
House Springs, MO | sell data away i'm more for selling user data than i am caps? cause mainly i dont have anything to hide if i did i think VPN could mask that | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| cable is just souring the market... there is a broad conflict of interest.. cable companies are obviously having a tough time selling more and more "cable-tv" delivered enterntainment when there is so much online for less cost or free... the sour grapes approach to targeting these potential customers is through usage caps. hopefully subscribers will have a choice of competitors who will not do this... and if they do... i'd start firing off letters about price collusion.. to those good for nothing congress people | |
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ShootToThril
Tell The Truth
Premium
join:2004-06-07
Sherman Oaks, CA
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
| Begining of the end. A clinch and the last breath of free internet as we know it, it's a shame the next generation might not even know what the idea of internet was all about, Capitlism destroys all that profits the end user of any product. Makes me feel like throuing up, i'm on the Turbo tier and i can't imagin why in the world do they think 40gb cap is enough for a user that's paying for the highest level of service...... If they would atleast do a market survey and discover that 60gb is somewhat standard. Problem even gets bigger just thinking about turning back to DSL with ATT and thier piracy tracking tools. | |
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Z90014
join:2008-02-01
Los Angeles, CA
|  i QUIT tw :)
The new TW caps they are trying in TX was enough for me to say enough. I called and canceled my TW service last week.
They of course told me I couldn't cancel because I didn't have a secret code. So I called back and told them that this is my notification of terminating my contract with them and that the ball was now in their court. They should never expect to hear from me or receive any money for I, at that time made my intention clear.
This woke someone up and they asked why I would want to switch to a slower, DSL connection (slower being their presumption). I thanked her for asking and stated that the caps being tested in TX by TW were unacceptable to me and that I would not support a company that employs caps.
The issues of caps, immunity and rates have left me feeling powerless. Here in California, for example, the Telecoms convinced the State that local control of Telecoms was bad and that a State franchise board would be better. This has come to pass, and so has my power to effect change locally.
The religion of the dollar was only one sword, and I used it when I cancelled Time 'Caping' Warner. Peace.
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Novan Leon
@sbcglobal.net | Interesting... As long as competition exists, I don't believe caps will be able to survive. If TWC or other begins to implement strong caps and competitor will come along to provide the same level of service without caps. The danger comes from lack of competition. | |
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Novan Leon
@sbcglobal.net | DSL I'm curious, so far the caps have only been mentioned where cable broadband is concerned. I wonder if DSL providers will join into this? | |
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Novan Leon
@sbcglobal.net
| Gaming and software development? I'm sorry for the triple post but...
Do you think the video games companies and web-based software developers are going to take these caps sitting down? Imagine the bill you would rack up playing WoW as much as some players do. Caps not only threaten HD movies and such, but the entire gaming and Web 2.0 industry. Caps have the ability to threaten the entire structure of the internet and how it's used today.
I have a hard time imagining that this kind of thing (caps) will be accepted without a HUGE fight. | |
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oXeY
@rr.com
| this is a joke right? My god the average teenager can text on aim yahoo or whatever at least 5gb worth in a month 70,000 emails hah! try maybe 10,000 at 1gb if your lucky with pictures virus and all the other spam you get plus gaming? 1gb get real that would be gone in a few hours of playing world of warcraft | |
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