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Comments on news posted 2008-07-04 09:52:45: It's the Fourth of July, so once you've had your fill of fireworks, hamburgers, and potato salad, chat amongst yourselves in the comment section below. Have an excellent holiday!. ..
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blackzero
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Trois-Rivieres, QC | HAPPY 4th DAY!! I'm living in Canada,but I have a lot of friends and family in the USA.
So happy 4th day to you,american citizens, and my family and friends. | |
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DOStradamus
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Santa Rosa, CA
1 edit | Let's All Declare Our Independance from GOOGLE! As many of us here either know as a fact, or somehow sensee:
•Stored data is a asset of value.
•Cross-referenced data is a powerful asset; it's value is usually several times more vaulable than the sum of its sources.
•Asses who posses too much power, always become corrupt tyrants, if not already.
With sites like their search engine, MySpace, Gmail, and Google Apps, among others, they can direcly observe any darn mouse-click they please. Google Ads, Maps, AdSense, their flash-based video player, and other products of theirs placed in 3rd-party sites are infiltrating the rest of the net, and provide "a place on nearly every corner" where they toss cookies at our brosers.
Does that scare you yet? A "one stop shop" for search and browsing habits, the Gmail messages and Google Apps documents of those foolish enough to use those services, plus Google's interest in storing our medical records probably makes their datacenter look like Disneyland to the surveilence-mad control freaks who infest our governments.
STEP ONE: Let's find another search engine to use, and rally behind it.
MSN is obviously out. Yahoo is a takeover target. Ask.com has diversified their business into spyware (toolbar). My "old favorite", Alta Vista, is no more.
How about Lycos? Lycos/HotBot is still alive and kicking. Are they pursuing the less-than-noble?
WE CAN SUCCEED! Remember when Microsoft had better than 90% of the browser market? From the ashes of Netscape rose Mozilla. Since it's flagship, Mozilla, set sail from its home port on the San Francisco Bay, it keeps gaining the momentun with which it will somday reach the Puget Sound, and soon be visible from Steve "DOS is dead" Ballmer's Office Window (damn, a good pun could go here!)
I'm going to test drive Lycos vigoruosly over the next few days. begin keeping logs of all the "googlegoo" I come across in my www travels, assess the the potential threats, and possibly start writing a small utility, code-named "google-gone".
-NK
UPDATE: WOW! I type my last name into their search box, and *MY* site is at the top of the list! Amazing.. my (lastname).org site beat out my more-famous distant cousin in Minnesota, who is fairly well-known on the BSD Unix scene. He has the ".net", but does noy host a website there. | |
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Brauckmiller
join:2001-01-21
Shirley, MA
| Re: Let's All Declare Our Independance from GOOGLE! You're kidding right? Do you honestly think that any other search engine will be any different? Do you really think that what you do on the internet is private in any way?
If you want to use Lycos/Hotbot, see ya. Google is by far the best search engine out there..hands down. If Google actually wants to go through the terabytes/petabytes worth od data that they collect and then use that to target ads during search results or whatever, its a small price to pay for a free search service. No one is making you click the ads you know. As for the latest ruling where Google is being asked to turn over YouTube records, its not the end of the world. They can see your IP and where you went, but without your ISP providing your user name, there isn't much that can be derived from it except what is the more popular views.
Thanks,
Craig | |
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DOStradamus
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Santa Rosa, CA
| Re: Let's All Declare Our Independance from GOOGLE! The idea is to not allow too much data documenting our web usage -- search history, page visits, inbox contents, et.al. to collect and "pool" at any on location, or collection of locations that are controlled by the same entity, in any amount that may become attractable to those who might see it as a "fishing pond" for underhanded exploits common to entrepenurial trial lawyers (blackmail-via-lawsuit), and Constitution-burning bureaucrats (NSA, TSA).
-NK | |
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CalMark
join:2002-12-11
Fishers, IN
| Re: Let's All Declare Our Independance from GOOGLE! Why doesn't someone write a browser that does automatic random web site visits that you could turn on when you are away from your computer. If you can't get surfing anonymity at least you could pollute the db. Would that be illegal? I, for one, don't realy care about data collection. Just, saying, there are other choices. | |
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CalMark
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Fishers, IN
| If you are concerned about keyword collection, then for every real search you do, you could do a search using nonsense keywords. If that was being done enough, their keyword DB would become worthless. If ggl's data collection bothers you then there are other choices out there.
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PolarBear
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| said by DOStradamus  :With sites like their search engine, MySpace... As far as I know, MySpace is owned by MediaCorp (Fox), and is completely unrelated. Sounds like you are hating here just to hate, not because Google is all that bad.
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jadebangle
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| Re: Let's All Declare Our Independance from GOOGLE! said by PolarBear :said by DOStradamus :With sites like their search engine, MySpace... As far as I know, MySpace is owned by MediaCorp (Fox), and is completely unrelated. Sounds like you are hating here just to hate, not because Google is all that bad. if what you say is true then a lot of people would be banned from myspace since fox like to censor everyone. | |
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PolarBear
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| Re: Let's All Declare Our Independance from GOOGLE! From »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySpace :
"Its headquarters are in Beverly Hills, California, USA,[2] where it shares an office building with its immediate owner, Fox Interactive Media; which is owned by News Corporation." | |
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PoloDude
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East Northport, NY | 4th Happy 4th and please no rain this weekend! | |
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Openview
@af.mil | Woo Staring at HP Openview all day for the 4th of July weekend. FUN TIMES INDEED!!!!1 Gotta keep them communists out. | |
| Kiwi
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USA
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| RAIN! I thought that had become the historical point of July 4th?
Of course it's the never ending rainy season around here, today included. Happy 4th for those that can bridge the storms. Have to figure out an alternative to the lake, not going through this next year; I believe if my bad memory serves me there have only been three clear July 4th's in my area since 1983!
Anyway, best to everyone and for those who have ideas for enjoying the 4th, aside water activities, I'm all ears  | |
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FrostyMelon
join:2006-02-06
Colorado Springs, CO
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| U.S.A. Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
Till you spend half your life just covering up
Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A. | |
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CalMark
join:2002-12-11
Fishers, IN
| Re: U.S.A. said by FrostyMelon :Born down in a dead man's town The first kick I took was when I hit the ground You end up like a dog that's been beat too much Till you spend half your life just covering up Born in the U.S.A. I was born in the U.S.A. I was born in the U.S.A. Born in the U.S.A. >
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Let's hope the RIAA\Publisher doesn't come after you for posting that. It made me hear that song in my head and they may argue that it's an infringment.... Of course, maybe they'll come after me now for quoting it. (Yes, I'm being facetious)
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David
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Granite City, IL
clubs: | Happy 4th everyone.. Try not to blow each other up. | |
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odreian615
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Chicago, IL
1 edit | Still cooking been cooking sine 5:40 am it's now 3:40 pm | |
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PolarBear
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| Re: Still cooking said by odreian615 :been cooking sine 5:40 am it's now 3:40 pm Um, it's Independence Day, not Thanksgiving! | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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Erie, PA | Re: Still cooking Real Barbecue? Like traditional cannibal style? | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
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Bradenton, FL | Happy July 4th Hopes everyone has a safe and joyous July 4th. | |
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Derspankster
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Marion, OH | Sam Adams Makes Damned Good Beer Much better than most of that European Horse Piss!
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BinaryXtreme
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Sparks, NV | Lamps..... I like lamps.  | |
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Nightshade
sic semper tyrannis
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| Happy 232nd Birthday America Let's not forget the document that made our nation possible, the Declaration of independence.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
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Antioch, TN
| Re: Happy 232nd Birthday America Thanks for posting this, as the majority of Americans I am sure have not take the time to read it or even attempt to truly understand what it means, what rights it does give us and the power of the people over Government. Our elected officials will do what ever they want until the people stand up and demand change, and not the empty rhetoric being currently spouted. I will let you be the judge of who the reference is to.
As for the men and women in uniform, God Bless You all!
For anyone wanting a factual base on the war we are fighting. »www.thereligionofpeace.com
The head needs to be cut off of the snake, and the current POTUS hopeful who is serious about doing so, will be the one getting my vote.
I am proud to be an American, and i know and can sing the Star Spangled Banner, unlike a lot of Americans.
Well i am finishing up the last bit of my 18 hour working holiday and getting a little sleepy.
Goodnight all. | |
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disconnected
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| Fireworks Video in High Definition- Happy Independance Day! I shot these fireworks last night at the Danbury Fair Mall with two full-raster high def video cameras, @ 1920x1080, with DAT-quality digital sound capture from two large-diaphragm studio condenser mics. Mix of overcranked (slow motio) and normal speed video to this clip to make it very 'busy'.
»exposureroom.com/members/Basspig···3f3526c/
Enjoy! | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA | Re: Fireworks Video in High Definition- Happy Independance Day! Thanks, the HD is almost as good as being there | |
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FoGcUtTeR
join:2002-09-11
Union City, CA | 4th Happy 4th all.. even though i couldt let fireworks off cuz everyone cried about them.. just wanted 2 say hay hay hayyyy!!!  | |
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