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Comments on news posted 2008-07-08 07:51:45: 22-year AT&T employee Mark Klein's discovery (pdf) that AT&T was funneling Internet and voice data wholesale to the NSA without judicial oversight is at the center of the warrantless wiretapping controversy, and the EFF's lawsuit against carriers and.. ..

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Matt
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 Big brass ones

I've got to admit, this guy has a big, brass set of 'em. He's lucky he wasn't found with a bullet in the back of his head in an alley. I wouldn't put that past the NSA or AT&T.

However - and maybe I'm drinking the governmental Kool-Aid here - but perhaps the information he has isn't that damaging at all and the investigative organization has found out all they need to know?

It sounds more like he's whining because he's no longer in the spotlight.


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I hate our Gov't sometimes!

I live in the best Country in the world, yet that same Country uses ideas and methods they claim will keep us safe that are against what we stand for in the first place?. I guess I just don't get it?
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moonpuppy

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So much for a Democratic Congress.....

Just proves my point that Congress is bought and paid for no matter what the party affiliation.


XBL2009
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Democrats sellout

They just pretend they care more then the Republicans who sellout without any shame.

In the end the rhetoric doesn't mean a thing. It's the vote that matters.


XBL2009
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reply to moonpuppy
Re: So much for a Democratic Congress.....

Sad but True!


P Ness
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reply to Matt
Re: Big brass ones

said by Matt See Profile :

I've got to admit, this guy has a big, brass set of 'em. He's lucky he wasn't found with a bullet in the back of his head in an alley. I wouldn't put that past the NSA or AT&T.

However - and maybe I'm drinking the governmental Kool-Aid here - but perhaps the information he has isn't that damaging at all and the investigative organization has found out all they need to know?

It sounds more like he's whining because he's no longer in the spotlight.
dont need to kill anyone anymore...just pay off congress and the president to give you immunity


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Re: So much for a Democratic Congress.....

If neither Presidential candidate steps up to the plate and goes against this bill, then maybe it's time to give the Green party a chance. At the least we can show the two other parties that we are tired of getting reamed without knowing it and we might as well test out the Green Fairy's water.


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 Meanwhile...

Back in the real world:

    •Unleaded gasoline is well over $4 a gallon.
    •The price of Natural gas is about to break another record.
    •Food inflation is through the roof.
    •There are 20 million or more illegal aliens infesting this country.
    •The economy is slowing.

Thankfully the Democrat party is right on top of all the real problems facing this country.
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ElJay

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Wow, the Democrat (sic) Party did all that in a year and a half?

They've been busier than I thought.


Shamayim
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Klein put his neck on the line

He stepped out for all American citizens. He is a hero whistleblower who deserves our support, not our derision.
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Re: Meanwhile...

said by ElJay See Profile :

Wow, the Democrat (sic) Party did all that in a year and a half?

They've been busier than I thought.
Well, there are less than 4 months to go before the election. My guess is the Democrat party won't bother with dealing with any of these problems because having a disgruntled electorate will probably favor them in the general election.
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Re: So much for a Democratic Congress.....

Heck no...Demoocrats are better than Greens...Nader backed the religious loonies on the Schiavo thing and they get money from many of the same people who donate to far-right turds like Rick Santorum. Furthermore, actress Susan Sarandon, a prominent Greenie, is a personal friend and donor to Alvaro Noboa, an Ecuadorean businessman (the country's wealthies, in fact) who uses child labour and sends paramilitaries after union organisers and a perennial far-right candidate who nearly beat radical social democrat Rafael Correa in that country's latest election.

If you are that disgusted by the Democrats and want to vote left, choose one of the many socialist or communist parties who have not endorsed Obama. Just don't vote for McBush: He's nutty.


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Don't Blame Me I Voted for Bill and Opus.

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Re: Klein put his neck on the line

said by Shamayim See Profile :

He stepped out for all American citizens. He is a hero whistelblower who deserves our support, not our derision.
Now that's funny. Maybe we could give him a statue near the Lincoln Memorial!


karlmarx

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Re: Don't Blame Me.......

I voted for Kang!

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Re: So much for a Democratic Congress.....

said by anicetoemma See Profile :

If neither Presidential candidate steps up to the plate and goes against this bill, then maybe it's time to give the Green party a chance. At the least we can show the two other parties that we are tired of getting reamed without knowing it and we might as well test out the Green Fairy's water.
Not a bad choice. Voting Socialist this year. Fed up with the Democrat/Republican nonsense. I'd encourage anyone considering third parties to do so as well.
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reply to Shamayim
Re: Klein put his neck on the line

said by Shamayim See Profile :

He stepped out for all American citizens. He is a hero whistelblower who deserves our support, not our derision.
100% correct. He's far more of a hero than the hundred of Senators, and hundreds of House Reps, and especially more than the entire executive branch.


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Republicans on wrong side of this issue.

This is the first issue in memory in which I would have supported the Democrats.

Presented accurately (MSM and conservatives colluding here), this has a strong potential of tipping a close election, heavily in favor of Obama.

Yet Obama trades such an opportunity in favor of a massive expansion of NSA power.

I wonder why that is?

NV
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What would the point of testifying be, again?

Karl seems to live in some bizarro conspiracy-theory world where major intelligence operations are conducted by a dark, secret, rogue administration, and we need a hero "whistleblower" to blow the cover off the operation.

In reality, the appropriate Congressional committees are briefed routinely, in secret, on classified Intelligence operations. Thus this "whistleblower" testimony would add no new information. All this guy did, in reality, was leak information that he should not have had and that should not have been leaked.

This is the reason why he gets no love from Congress. They know that they are "in the loop", and they know nothing good could result for them from a big, grandstanding Congressional hearing.

The only reason for hearings would be to grandstand and have congresspeople pretend they are outraged by something they already knew and approved.


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reply to moonpuppy
Re: So much for a Democratic Congress.....

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

Just proves my point that Congress is bought and paid for no matter what the party affiliation.
No, it just proves most Congresscritters recognize the need to spy on our enemy and face the reality of the world as it is today.
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