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Comments on news posted 2008-07-14 09:19:30: Last week NY Attorney General Andrew Cuomo made a big deal out of the fact that he'd managed to get AOL to stop offering access to child porn newsgroups. ..

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pnh102
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Cuomo's Running For Governor

Yet another AG (aspiring governor) from the great state of New York.


mrchris
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Just like Mario, eh?


P Ness
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What is Child Porn

»perezhilton.com/2008-07-12-miley···st-naked

ok according to most laws this would be considered child pron

same with the pictures of her in that mag.

any poses of lude sexual positions by underage girls is considered CP.

hell one guy in florida got 3 years for having a web site of girls in bathing suits and underwear...not nude...but lude poses

so where does the line end? jcpenny mags?
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Madtown

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1. Miley Cyrus photos aren't child porn, might be offensive to some, but not child porn.

2. A web site of girls (I'm assuming 12 or younger) in bathing suits and underwear isn't child porn, however it's not a website I would look at 24/7, not my cup of pee.

3. Jcpenny mags, I'm assuming the ads with little girls in their bathing suits or panties, not child porn, just advertisment, not my cup of pee either, in fact the only thing I notice is the Best Buy or Circuit City ads.

Madtown

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Is it just my imagination ???

Is it just my imagination or does his face look like he's guilty of looking at child porn??? He looks too guilty in this photo, »/r0/download/1···omo2.jpg

nasadude

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good cover for the ISPs

for those not paying attention, the ISPs say

"the AG made us do it!"

which deflects customers cries of "why did you cut newsgroups, you money grubbing, cheap ISP?"

the AG gets to posture and preen in his fight against child porn (TM) and the ISPs get hossanahs and attaboys for something they were going to do (or have done) anyway, that probably was going to piss off customers.


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reply to mrchris
Re: Cuomo's Running For Governor

said by mrchris See Profile :

Just like Mario, eh?
I cannot deal with yet another Cuomo administration!
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reply to P Ness
Re: What is Child Porn

You might want to cite sources for those allegations.

Child porn involves children under the age of 18 engaging in sexual acts or posing nude in sexually provocative poses/positions.

The picture of child nude is NOT child pornography.

The picture of child in a bathing suit or lingerie is NOT child pornography. they must be engaged in a sexual act or suggestive of a sex act.

Sure its an ugly fine line and i find it repugnant that many get close but never cross and can get away with it but its the law and for what its worth it does work.

There are MANY legal sites that have children under the age of 18 in lingerie and swim suits that are highly suggestive BUT not nude and NOT posing in sexual positions.

I don't see these AG's going after them...why? cause they are perfectly legal. offensive to many, but perfectly legal.


jmorlan
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AT&T buckles by removing ALL alt.binar* groups

»my.att.net/newsgroup/s/s.dll?spa···ly=y&ck=

...and my usenet experience is ever so much better now. Thank you AT&T.
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Fighting child porn, or is it appeasing the MAFIAA?

Seems it is more the latter when all the alt.binary
newsgroups are cut by AOL, AT&T and others. That is
when you consider that a lot of what is on those groups
is copyright infringing content.

And as someone noted in the AT&T Southeast topic on this,
there are a lot of groups outside the alt.binaries
hierarchy that carry child porn. And any binary group
can get hit by it what with Russian spam gangs using it
as a come on to get people to install their malware.

Of course if they were honest about it (too much cost to
maintain multiple GB worth of content a day on their
servers), there might be fewer complaints.
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cnr1109

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Another reason (like you need more) I would never live in NYS again


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reply to n2jtx
Re: Cuomo's Running For Governor

said by n2jtx See Profile :

said by mrchris See Profile :

Just like Mario, eh?
I cannot deal with yet another Cuomo administration!
Neither can I!
His father was the perfect politician, possessing the ability to talk out both sides of his face!

Whatever was politically expedient, he supported, god forbid he actually listened to his constituents!
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reply to danclan
Re: What is Child Porn

If it's not kiddy porn it's terrorism.


mrchris
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reply to jwersan
Re: Cuomo's Running For Governor

I was still in high school or even middle school when Mario Cuomo was in office, what sort of crap was pulled by him?


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said by mrchris See Profile :

I was still in high school or even middle school when Mario Cuomo was in office, what sort of crap was pulled by him?
Well, even though he professed to be a "good" catholic, he stated that he could not do anything to ban abortions in NY because the voters supported allowing abortions in this state, yet he REFUSED to sign a death penalty bill in NY, even though the vast majority of the voters wanted it, due to religious reasons...
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bgraham

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The sad thing is...

Thousands of voters will actually believe that Cuomo did something to eliminate kiddy porn from the internet.

I use newsgroups for access to Microsoft and Adobe users groups. Instead of getting it from Verizon I now have to subscribe to a private provider because VZ removed all groups except some stupid junk ones. It cost me $10 for 30gigs, so it's no big deal.

I am sure that anyone seriously into illegal kiddy porn did not use Verizon or ATT newsgroups anyway. They subscribed to a third party because it is pretty well anonymous.


Richard B
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Much a do about nothing

Both Karl and Cuomo forgot the most effective tool, the FBI and Scotland Yard's aggressive prosecution via sting operations. Mot of the notorious alt. group have been abandoned and sites been shut down for years. This is nothing more than political pandering.

It seem New York AG office have a long history of abuse of power just for the sake of advancing one political career. Does Eliot Spitzer ring a bell?


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reply to jwersan
Re: Cuomo's Running For Governor

said by jwersan See Profile :

said by mrchris See Profile :

I was still in high school or even middle school when Mario Cuomo was in office, what sort of crap was pulled by him?
Well, even though he professed to be a "good" catholic, he stated that he could not do anything to ban abortions in NY because the voters supported allowing abortions in this state, yet he REFUSED to sign a death penalty bill in NY, even though the vast majority of the voters wanted it, due to religious reasons...
Isn't that the total opposite over what most religious right politicians do? I thought that most were against abortion while they are for the death penalty. Still, an eyeroll either way would be appropriate.


koam
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but or...

did you mean "butt wind" ?
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