Dogfather
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2 edits | TWC best watch their step
Or they risk the wrath of FCC do-gooders pressured by Sen. in an election cycle.
Meanwhile everything I read was about the focus on TiVos but I'm wondering about other cablecard tuners. The other day there was a Sony Blu-Ray Vista HTPC with CableCard built in for $999 in the Hot Deals forum. I wonder if these USB SDV adapters will work with these Cablelabs approved Vista machines that include Cablecard. |
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA | Tivo
Noticed that in the summer update for tivo S3 HD's there is now a "Switched" settings page which wasnt there before that talks about the SDV boxes |
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit |  Tivo info on switched tuning adapters
»www.tivo.com/setupandsupport/how···ils.html
Explains what Tivo is doing and page has a Q&A on tuning adapters for switched digital video.
Note that these tuning adapters for SDV do NOT support VOD from the cable companies. |
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AR
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| HD compression?
Does this mean Comcast can now un-compress HD signals such that subscribers who want to watch shows in full HD quality can actually do that?
From what I understand, this is optimization of the last mile (edge router to STB) bandwidth. So wouldn't it be possible for the user to control what exact channels consume that bandwidth? |
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TKJunkMail
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| said by AR  :Does this mean Comcast can now un-compress HD signals such that subscribers who want to watch shows in full HD quality can actually do that? It could. But it will most likely mean MORE HD channels, which is what users are clamoring for. They are not clamoring for less compression.
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AR
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1 edit | Sure - but how does this really work? As an end user, am I told how many HD channels I can have in the last mile versus that plus X regular channels?
What I mean is, they add more HD channels, hold them at the edge router and I as a user control how many full signal,uncompressed channels stay active in the last mile pipe?
Think of it like DSL - your last mile is capped at X Mbps whereas before the CO, there's a OC-X pipe but content trickles down the X mbps capped pipe to your PC. |
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banditws6
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Naples, FL | Scientific Atlanta?
I see Motorola and Cisco are the two vendors providing these devices so far. Presumably the Cisco adapter will be deployed in Scientific Atlanta equipment areas?
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TKJunkMail
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Re: HD compression?
said by AR :Sure - but how does this really work? As an end user, am I told how many HD channels I can have in the last mile versus that plus X regular channels? End users will have no say in how their channels are delivered to the edge router. It will be a statistical algorithm based on how many users are on a node and how many different channels they are watching spread over the available bandwidth.
The problems that arise will happen when the multiple viewers on a node watch more unique channels than the bandwidth allocated to the node allows. Sort of like what happens today when many users try to use VOD at the same time and run out of channel space allocated to VOD at the node. They get an error message.
If SDV is not configured correctly or some unique combination of users on a node all requesting different channels occurs, you could end up trying to watch a channel and get refused and end up just getting an error msg.
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MacLeech
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Re: Scientific Atlanta?
Cisco bought Scientific Atlanta last year, so the Cisco model is actually from Scientific Atlanta.... |
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Re: HD compression?
The TTL question still remains. There needs to be a concise policy on which takes precedent (re:bandwidth), vod or hd.
The market would come into play of course but I could see a clear cut in service when it comes to VOD and HD. Ex: are you going to have antiquated movies removed and offer less than popular HD channels because more people are demanding a certain video or want a specific channel?
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banditws6
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Re: Scientific Atlanta?
Cool, didn't know that. Thanks! |
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justbits
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1 edit | bandwidth savings "exceeded 50%"
In early trials, Time Warner Cable announced the bandwidth savings "exceeded 50%," so they've been aggressively deploying the technology. This suggests that since the bandwidth savings directly correlates with TV viewing habits, that more than 50% of the content that's being broadcast at any time of day (that you're paying for) is not being viewed. So, since this technology definitely results in a bandwidth savings and potentially lower power needed to distribute the content, will the consumer see a benefit? Lower costs? Unlikely. A greater ability for cable companies to track your viewing habits, absolutely! Lower consumer prices because they can more accurately target their viewing audience's viewing habits? Unlikely. |
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Mari
| More SDV in Minnesota
Cable Digital News recently reported that Comcast has added two more SDV trial markets in Minnesota. »tinyurl.com/57ojul
More on the Moto SDV adapter here: »tinyurl.com/6csu3r |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | Will they be 100% free or will they slap you with a fee?
Will they be 100% free or will they slap you with a fee?
The cable co can move to pushed VOD with there DVR's. |
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SLD
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join:2002-04-17 | reply to Dogfather
Re: TWC best watch their step
That is a big question I have. I just implemented an HDHomerun - I'd hate to have it killed by SDV. |
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | this defeats the whole purpose
I got a CableCARD tv to get away from boxes....so now my solution to "fix" cablecard is to get an adapter box.
this is so fucking retarded. |
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koolkid1563
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1 edit | reply to MacLeech
Re: Scientific Atlanta?
They announced the acquisition back in 2005 - »newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2005/cor···805.html
Cisco finished acquiring Scientific Atlanta in February of 2006 - »newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2006/cor···706.html |
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hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH | reply to Dogfather
Re: TWC best watch their step
Why should TWC watch their step? they're not doing anything they shouldnt be doing with SDV. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| Help Me Out Here Wouldja
So the SDV allegedly frees up bandwith. Is there any quantifiable evidence of this theory? Why should I want one. Where is the Features-Advantages-Benefits of this device so I can make an intelligent decision as to whether it's even worth my time. |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: TWC best watch their step
If they start charging high fees for SDV add-on boxes it could be seen as anti-competitive by the FCC who is pushing cablecards. |
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