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Comments on news posted 2008-07-21 15:04:43: A security patch is only good if someone actually downloads and installs it. A post to the Google blog points to a new study that finds only 59. ..

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Chiyo
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Minneapolis, MN
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nothing to see move along

This is no surprise, what I am surprised is that Microsoft hasn't bothered to do the same thing FireFox does but they already noted that in the article.

I wonder how many of hte "users" are businesses holding off upgrading to latest and greatest IE.
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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
auto updates...

MS has an auto-update mechanism... they just chose thanks to corporate pressure not to make IE7 a mandatory update..


serge666

join:2004-06-07
Little Falls, NJ
if it ain't broke...

the latest and greatest isn't always good. look what happened when Vista SP1 came out c.c


Bobcat
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join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ
IE7

quote:
Only 52.5% of Microsoft Internet Explorer users have updated to version 7.
IE7 does not work on Win98SE, so I still have to run IE6.

CanadianIron

join:2006-10-08
Beverly Hills, CA
IE6 >>>> IE7

IE6 is better than IE7 in that IE7 breaks a whole lot of things which are widely and commonly used by businesses.


tschmidt
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join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
reply to Bobcat
Re: IE7

IE7 breaks a lot of web sites.

I upgraded and had to downgrade back to 6.

/tom


HardwareGeek

join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
They really needed a study to tell them this?

I'm sure google could of looked at their own logs to see that most people are on out dated browsers..
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FLengineer
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join:2007-06-26
Leesburg, FL
Auto update is the reason here.

It's so much easier to click "Yes" than to go find, authenticate, download, authenticate, and install an update. Does IE7 require authentication? The Windows Genuine Advantage thing they make you do every 5 mins?

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

Here's my issues

Firefox auto updates can break plug-ins. (Usually due to not being "certified".)

I'm still waiting for Real Player, even, to catch up to FF 3. Paypal just introduced a new plug-in to use the service on any site.. not compatible with FF 3. People

IE7, in my opinion, needs to move away from the Windoze update system and have it's own like FF and about any other program does. A lot of people I know turn off the untrustworthy Windows updates because of things like the so-called critical update of WGA being installed, etc. and for other network management reasons.

Safari - I don't know much about that browser except I won't install it anyway. When Safari became part of the Apple update and they tried to push that out to my computer (because I had the update software installed for my iTunes and iTouch) I ripped iTunes off my computer and sold the iTouch. (For that and other reasons)

Others - don't use 'em.


avd706
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join:2003-02-06
Union, NJ
Is IE6 obsolete?

I use FF exclusively. Can IE6 be patched up to be as secure as IE7. I thought the difference between IE6 and 7 was some features, basically the tabbing.


ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
Clean out your furnace filter, dummy

and your refrigerator's water filter, drain the sediments of your water heater, check tire pressures, clear gutters, get a physical.

There are a lot of things everyone needs to do. People have different priorities and know how.


SLD
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reply to avd706
Re: Is IE6 obsolete?

As a web developer, I can say that there are many improvements in the CSS rendering engine that make me wish everyone would upgrade from v.6. Also, trasparent PNG is now supported in IE7, amongst other things. When a clients asks for IE6 support, I have to charge extra, and I remind them that IE8 in soon to be released, which makes IE6 very old.


dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
reply to serge666
Re: if it ain't broke...

What happened?
This laptop came with Vista SP1 factory installed - runs fine.
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uid1307457
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reply to SLD
Re: Is IE6 obsolete?

said by SLD See Profile :

As a web developer, I can say that there are many improvements in the CSS rendering engine that make me wish everyone would upgrade from v.6. Also, trasparent PNG is now supported in IE7, amongst other things. When a clients asks for IE6 support, I have to charge extra, and I remind them that IE8 in soon to be released, which makes IE6 very old.
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Poetique

join:2007-08-05
Birmingham, AL


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reply to ninjatutle
Re: Clean out your furnace filter, dummy

I use Firefox 3 on this partition, but IE6 on WinXP.

Not because IE7 breaks things though... moreso just because it's a big, slow, memory-hogging browser that I'm not particularly fond of. Not to mention its fairly easy to crash it to the point of having to kill & restart explorer.

Forcing people to update isn't what's needed... Microsoft's browser needs to suck less.


gomer1701ems

join:2001-08-23
Minneapolis, MN

Microsoft Update

Didn't Microsoft, at one time, make it a critical update, so that even people with a pirated version of Windows could get it? I thought I saw it when I used Microsoft Update. I could have a fuzzy memory, however.
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Mr Anon

@il.us

IE 6 isn't dead

IE 6 comes in SP3 still, in fact if you have installed IE 7 you won't be able to revert to it if you don't uninstall it before sp3.

IE 6 still gets patched and the version of ie6 in sp3 is newer than the rest. So I'm not sure how important it is to be on IE 7.


avd706
insert annoying animated gif here
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join:2003-02-06
Union, NJ
reply to uid1307457
Re: Is IE6 obsolete?

I meant from a security standpoint, not a development one.


cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

reply to CanadianIron
Re: IE6 >>>> IE7

Actually, the things that IE7 "breaks" are all the hacks and ActiveX that were "standard" for IE6. Those "standards" are for the most part long outdated and the bane of existence for webdevelopers.

IE6 Beta 1 was released in March of 2001. The last service pack for it was released in August of 2004. That's almost 4 years of outdated standards, browsing, and poor CSS support. Yech.


cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN

reply to uid1307457
Re: Is IE6 obsolete?

Do you develop websites for a living? I do. While we don't charge an extra fee specifically for sites compatible with IE6, if the chosen site design does not work with IE6 then the client ends up paying additional in the long run with billable hours. Depending on the complexity of the design we might spend 2x the hours getting the site to look pixel identical with IE6 as what usually comes fairly naturally for FF2&3/IE7/Opera/Safari.
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