| |telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth
Death Valley, CA
Re: Thanks bittorrent! hmmm my last counter point got deleted. Kinda proves what I said, but... let me try again.
If you believe that all you can eat services are a good thing for the service (which actually needs to factor in the business aspects of that service), one way to fight the battle is to lobby your information in public forums where you have a heavy control of what is seen and what is not.
"Believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear." - Dinah Craik
| I have bittorrent blocked. I use OpenDNS and I have p2p sites that I've know of blocked. I use a 2wire wireless modem, and anyone that is connected to my router will not be able to access p2p sites because I have them blocked, (well 3 of them so far). It's my router, I pay for the Internet connection, and I even paid for the router myself, so therefore I can decide what websites are allowed to be access on my connection and what websites aren't allowed, If I want I can even block myspace.com, that is my rights, correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my rights.|
San Francisco, CA
Re: Thanks bittorrent! Funny - you blame the people paying for service, for using the service they pay for. Yeah...it is the users' fault. It couldn't be a money-grab by ISPs.
This will come full-circle when ISP are billing by-the-byte and then one starts offering "unlimited" service, they'll all clamor on the wagon to gain back customers. Happened before, it'll happen again.
Re: Thanks bittorrent! for nothing
said by ninjatutle:So you would agree that they are there to provide a service for people to legally download movies, shows, songs and software?
The ISP's aren't there to provide a service
for people to steal
movies, shows, songs and software.
| |OwlbetIgnite the IcePremium,MVM
We'll give you a connection just for email and surfing My ISP has a 10 GB monthly cap. I'd go over my monthly limit in a day.
What is ironic is my ISP leases their lines from AT&T.
Re: Thanks bittorrent! Feel sorry for you, man. Thank God I Live in Canada, though
My main point is though, BT has legal uses, and besides, HTTP and other services use much more bandwidth than P2P nowadays.
Personally, though, if you want to know, I don't use BT, since there is nothing good to download anyways.
connection I don't see the connection between what Quinn said and usage based pricing. I wouldn't claim that AT&T won't be using usage based pricing at some point, but I don't see how providing service by tiers is some sort of code word for it.
It's a trick. Get an axe. - Ash
Here comes U$ageVer$e! Why would they continue to let you download movies for free when they are now in the TV business and selling movie packages?
Comcast has spoiled me rotten!
| |morboComplete Your TransactionReviews:
Re: I don't care.........
said by Madtown:uh, that's what they're strongly hinting they are going to do. basically, the era of DSL as "unlimited" and cheap alternative to cable is going bye bye.
I don't care what they do, as long as they don't raise the price too high or put a limit on how much I can use during a month,
Re: PaLease: It's ATT BIlling Or in the case of us in ohio, its still Ohio Bell, just a diffrent name on the door. Nothings ealy has ever changed just the dba names. Next time you download/install any of the att/yahoo stuff, read the fine print you gotta agree to and see what company names are still there, yep ohio bell tel co.
Gee i can rember all the hoopla and the worlds gonna end crap when SBC was talking about "buying" ameritech, and how rates would skyrocket. Funny dont rember having these many billing issues before SBC gobbles us up, must be that darn Texas math of 15 + 3 - 7 + 2 = 20 thing.
I can see the bill now, nothing about overage on one months bill, then the following month a 500.00 bill with numerious late fees, only to get credited the following month when one monkey talks to the outher billing monkey.
FCC I have a question With the new telecom giant in the room now, I was wondering... when does all the competition and lower pricing start? I just want to know for budgeting reasons and all....
| |Gandalf1315Freelance Philosopher
I dont have a problem with usage caps...... .... as long as they are fair.
Anything under 250 gig a month (at my current 7 down / 512 up speeds) for the current $40-$50 a month we pay now would not be fair. This is broadband after all. Streaming video and music, voip, gaming, legal downloads (linux, MSDN, software, music), etc, etc. If I cant use my broadband connection like a broadband connection then as a consumer there really is no value in having it.
If they want to add a $20-$30 tier with a 40-50 gig monthly cap then that would be fine too. It would be a great way to get the casual surfer/emailer to sign up and ensure they are still going to make a profit off of cheaper tiers.
I for one am not going to rush to judgment on this one until I see what the industry standard usage tiers actually turn out to be.
No man's life, liberty or fortune is safe while our legislature is in session.
--- Benjamin Franklin
Little Rock, AR
Re: I dont have a problem with usage caps...... If it were all fair, then there wouldn't be any reason to change anything, unless you actually believe that they're worried about bandwidth. They can't make more money then they currently do if it's fair, so I highly doubt that it will be. And even if it doesn't effect you directly, you can be sure that it will in other ways, since this internet thingie is all about connectiveness.
I remember when the standard was pay-by-usage and I have no interest in going back to those days. I'm also betting that any overage will cost much more then it did back then, when there usually was no overage and you either waited until the following month or upgraded to a higher package to have your service restored.
I do not believe that pay-by-usage is inevitable, but regardless, if AT&T ever changes to that type of plan, then I'll switch to any ISP that offers unlimited data at a respectable price, even if it's at slower rates. Why? Because I don't want the bother of having to constantly check my usage, the problem of being disconnected during a business transaction or having to pay exorbitant fees to guarantee that I don't have to worry.
The bottom line is that a truly competitive market will overcome pay-by-usage, as it has already done once before. So if it's inevitable, then something obviously ain't right.