Matt
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Jamestown, NC |  Another limitation
All I keep hearing about is how the iPhone has to be hacked to do this, jailbroken to do that, or this 3rd party app has to be purchased and installed. Why in the hell would anyone want one of these when there are cheaper phones that can do more? |
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theeinstein
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1 edit | Very few phones on the market WILL do the things you talk about without some kind of manipulation. So try rephrasing your comment to include a slightly more believable argument. |
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A900MHz Fan
join:2004-07-12
Mitchell, SD
1 edit | said by theeinstein  :Very few phones on the market WILL do the things you talk about without some kind of manipulation. So try rephrasing your comment to include a slightly more believable argument. Yup, my XV6800 will do much more than the iPhone, but I did have to load a custom WM6.1 OS on it. After that process everything was fairly well ready to use though.
All of it is totally legal software wise and acceptable under the Verizon TOS.
Neal |
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Matt
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said by theeinstein :Very few phones on the market WILL do the things you talk about without some kind of manipulation. So try rephrasing your comment to include a slightly more believable argument. My last 3 phones would do tons more than the iPhone, including tethering. Moto V9M, Moto Q9c, and XV6700. Tethering, like MMS/SMS, is a staple of a cell phone. It baffles me why the iPhone can't do these simple things.
I guess if surfing the (limited, non-flash) web is important to you, then the iPhone is the way to go. That's its only real claim to fame. |
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fcisler
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»www.searchoctane.com/blackjack-2···ther.htm
Blackjack II. 6 steps. NO "unlocking" required. No special software.
Believe it or not - my Blackjack I (original) was the same.
Guess what? The AT&T 8525 was very simple too.
The AT&T Tilt...well what do you know? It also tethers...easily.
The iPhone is the minority here...most AT&T smartphones WILL tether very easily.
I also don't need to use a SOCKS proxy (somethings do NOT work through) and actually have valid DNS to use.
Knowing Apple, their theory was who needs to tether when we already GAVE you this wonderful phone? Pitiful... |
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N3OGH
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"Here's the basic rundown:
- Jailbreak your iPhone 3G
- Install 3Proxy and Terminal
- Create an ad-hoc Wi-fi network using your laptop
- Join the network with your iPhone
- Find the iPhone's IP address
- Open Terminal and run the proxy program
- Open Safari on your iPhone and open a web page
- Configure your browser to use the proxy"
Enough about the rundown!
Just find a McDonalds or a Starbucks and grab the WiFi all ready.
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Dogfather
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Re: Another limitation
Because for a lot of people the iPhone is far superior to their WM counterparts for the services they do use.
There are those like me who have had multiple WM handsets, all of which sucked ass for lots of different reasons, tiny screen, frustratingly tiny buttons, horrid browsers, shitty email clients, etc.
And thankfully, for those who want to stay with WM, there are plenty of handsets to choose from, although in the US the iPhone outsells all of them combined.
The iPhone or any other device isn't going to be all things for all people. |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to N3OGH
Re: UGH
Or buy another phone if tethering is the end-all be all. |
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Pentaxian
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| I'm generally happy
Amazed! That's how I feel about the iPhone compared to such phones like, The Dare from Verizon.. But I do like the Crackberries, just not as much as this iPhone.
There are some issues but so far they seem tiny compared to not even having the functionality in the first place.
Take for instance - Microsoft's pulling email forwarding to other similar type providers such as gmail and yahoo.. MS is being jerks about it yet the workaround was really simple and I now have Hotmail on my iPhone by using the Izymail service. It works perfectly! |
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Tomek
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Brooklyn, NY | BlackBerry
Plug into USB port, launch Blackberry software, change to COM from USB, start "dial-up" connection, browse. Easy enough.
It's not 3G, but what's the point of having it with limits?
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FLengineer
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Leesburg, FL | reply to Matt
Re: Another limitation
MattE you forgot the best phrase of the instructions.
"it will do some internal magic" |
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Dogfather
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Laguna Hills, CA | reply to A900MHz Fan
The XV6800 costs 75% more than the iPhone and at least my VZ so-called unlimited data plan which isn't unlimited adds $45/mo (50% higher than for the iPhone).
For some people tethering isn't worth that extra cost. |
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Dogfather
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said by FLengineer :MattE you forgot the best phrase of the instructions. "it will do some internal magic" Or turn the phone into a pretty bricked paperweight. |
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iLive4Apple
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said by theeinstein :Very few phones on the market WILL do the things you talk about without some kind of manipulation. So try rephrasing your comment to include a slightly more believable argument. My $50 LG CU515 would tether to my MacBook via both USB and Bluetooth HSPDA speed with a $15 Medianet Unlimited plan right out of the box.
And now my Sprint PCS Touch will tether via BT to my MacBook as CDMA's Rev. A speeds which are comparable to AT&T's HSDPA right out of the box running WM 6.1 with just 3 adjustments to the registry. Oh and not to mention I get unlimited text, data, and 1000 minutes for only $50. |
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TKJunkMail
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Re: UGH
said by N3OGH :Just find a McDonalds or a Starbucks and grab the WiFi all ready. Or get a 3G card for your PC and the plan to go along with it. Hey, they even sell PC's now with 3G capability thrown in. No crazy steps to go thru to access the internet.
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Dogfather
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| I have the iPhone...
And for most people they don't need\want to tether. AT&Ts 3G is rather lame anyway. I'd say if you want to use 3G go out and pay $130 off of eBay for a broadband card, then grab a GoPhone account and add unlimited data for $20 a month. Then put the SIM in the aircard, change the APN to wap.cingular and go.
Believe it or not, this is much simpler than trying to cobble together the iPhone hack. This is from a person who just pwned his iPhone after upgrading it to 2.0 firmware, uses it with T-Mobbile (first-gen) and doesn't use his iPhone for his main line.
Sure, the iPhone is cool and all, but I can get more things done at less cost with my HTC Mogul (6800) on Sprint. I got SERO so I pay for my whole cell bill what AT&T users pay for their data plan. An equivalent plan to mine on the iPhone would cost $40 + $7 (extended nights and weekends, but they aren't quite extended enough) + $20 (unlimited messaging) + $30 = $97 + taxes and fees per month. Not. Worth. It.
Especially when Sprint voice quality is great and with WMWiFiRouter I have three ways to tether my Mogul, at high speeds, with no finnicky stuff required: cable, Bluetooth and WiFI.
So it boils down to this: if you're an average Joe, you'll love the iPhone. If you're an uber-nerd who will tinker with stuff for hours on end, you'll love the iPhone. Otherwise, go with something else. |
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A900MHz Fan
join:2004-07-12
Mitchell, SD
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Re: Another limitation
said by Dogfather :The XV6800 costs 75% more than the iPhone and at least my VZ so-called unlimited data plan which isn't unlimited adds $45/mo (50% higher than for the iPhone). For some people tethering isn't worth that extra cost. My 6800 cost me $250 with a 2 year contract extension. What is the contract life for the iPhone?
What is the price plan for 2100 anytime minutes, unlimited data, text, pix, and navigation?
Granted that 6800 users do pay more, but they do have more available to them as well.
Neal |
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timuze
join:2008-05-03 | Why Bother?
The whole purpose of me getting the Iphone in the first place was to eliminate the cost of and trouble of lugging a laptop around.
I also chose the Iphone because I was already a long time Cingular/AT&T customer. |
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