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As much as I don't agree with it, but what the MPAA did is basically calling a man or a women who hires a private I spy on their spouce a stalker.
The court will see it in the same light. Plus two wrongs may not make a right but you can't go to court and say oh he spied on me illegally after I stole his music collection. | |
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First off, the courts have clear definitions of stalking. Private investigators are legal, and have clear codes. Observing someone is not an illegal activity.
Now, if the PI broke into the spouse's residence, and accessed personal files, then they could be charged, and the information would be thrown out.
As far as "you can't go to court and say oh he spied on me illegally after I stole his music collection", um, yes you can.
How do you think people get off on Warrant technicalities? When the police search property, they have a specific scope. If they exceed their scope, charges are routinely dropped. And if they don't have a warrant, they are almost certainly dropped, and would be thrown out in court, without question.
Paying someone to hack a computer is soliciting an illegal activity. Doesn't matter what the rationale 
Unfortunately, like the MPAA, you seem to think that alleged 'pirates' should have no rights. We afford more rights to rapists & murderers, but download a song without paying, and the end will justify the means.
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2 edits | If they paid this guy to do something illegal If they paid this guy to do something illegal, then they should be criminally charged-AND the evidence that put Torrentspy out of business should ne excluded from any lawsuit-and if it factored into any court decision against Torrentspy, then that decision should be reversed. I would assume that this also opens them up to substantial civil liability as well. | |
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If *I* had done anything close to what they did, I would be in the GreyBar Hotel for years!
Honestly, does anyone here think the MPAA will get any sort of punishment for this?
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They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them. | |
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 |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 1 edit | Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable said by fAcEtIOUs:They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them. Two wrongs don't make a right, does it? If _____ is to be held responsible for their actions and get prosecuted, so should the MPAA, right?
Illegal is illegal, or are there special exceptions for corporations with DEEP pockets? -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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 |  |  DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable If it weren't a group corporate thugs involved TK wouldn't bother defending them. | |
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 |  Pv8man join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | I would tend to disagree TK.
These practices are illegal, therefore the evidence provided in court should be Void. | |
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 |  DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | Yes, anything that justifies endless corporate racketeering. | |
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 |  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA kudos:1 | said by fAcEtIOUs:They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them. OMG!! TKjunk is all for breaking the law. That's right, if a company breaks the law that is quite alright in his book as long as the big corps are making money.
Such a true hypocrite.
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This is like me getting sued for using razor wire around my windows from someone breaking into my house. -- The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty | |
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Only those who make the proper bribes contributions to Congress don't have the follow the rule of law. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable Where I'm at, it is illegal; my point is however, that I will do what it takes to protect my property. Once again here, it seems that the criminal has more rights tham the victim.
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit | Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable Then you will suffer the consequences if you protect your property through illegal means. And when you do that (protect your property illegally), YOU are a criminal too.
The MPAA like the RIAA are engaging in racketeering and those executives should be fined and jailed just as you or I would if we did the crap they're doing. | |
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The fact of the matter is, if you break the law to catch someone, then you are no better than the person. Of course, you support the bush regime flaunting the law to catch those scary scary 'terrist'. Who cares if I called my friend in Iraq, I should be monitored! That constitution? It's just a damn piece of paper! We don't have any rights! we're at WAR dammit! You should be PROUD to have to show your 'papers' every time you want to cross state lines. You should support random checkpoints where the police can demand to see your papers. I mean, it worked so well in the 1940's, lets bring it back to the US, even though we fought a war to prevent just such a policy. -- The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity! | |
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 |  |  DogfatherPremium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit | Re: Pirate Bay complaining about illegality is laughable You didn't get the memo...the rule of law applies to everyone except corporate thugs.
The MPAA membership should forfeit 1 year of profits as a penalty and those that signed off on the hacking should go to prison for a term of not less than 20 years. | |
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 |  markwp2001SpreadheadPremium join:2002-05-25 Long Beach, MS | said by fAcEtIOUs:They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them. Ahh, moral relativism from a conservative such as yourself. Say it ain't so.
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them. The laws of their host country aren't being violated, actually the laws in many other countries aren't being violated either. In turn that makes the ethics of the argument subjective.
If you want to add an extra argument to this, as more of the population does the same thing the legality of an issue such as this falls to the wayside. Simply on the point that the judicial system will become burdened by the number of 'petty' criminals that are charged with crimes relating to an issue overburdening the justice system, the judicial/legislative then will have to make a decision. That being, is it even worth their time to put people through the system for what will eventually be a petty crime?
Going back however to the topic at hand, getting personal information by various means such as key logging, packet sniffing or interception attacks is illegal nearly everywhere; unless you're in some 3rd world country that doesn't have laws written for it yet. | |
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 |  DesdinovaPremium join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD | "They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics."
No, they continually trumpet their disdain for U.S. laws and the moronic attempts by U.S. companies to try and enforce those laws in Sweden. | |
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Good or bad ethics by the way doesn't necessarily equate to anything illegal.
And honestly, I don't think that the founders of Pirate Bay care a single bit on what the MPAA "hacker spy" knows or told. | |
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 |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | said by fAcEtIOUs:They continually trumpet their disdain for laws and ethics. Who cares what they think about someone hacking them. If you look at what they say you will find that they do NOT claim disdain for laws but disdain for attempts to enforce INAPPLICABLE laws. What they do is legal by the Swedish Laws and they ridicule the *AA types for claiming that US laws can be being broken by their actions in Sweden. | |
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Hacking someone's systems and stealing their information IS illegal.... | |
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I for one hope it doesn't pass. The days of going to prison for simply possessing "criminal information" is not something I look forward to. -- "Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service." - former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman, unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!) | |
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2.) if everyone jumped off the pier...would you follow?
3.) 2 wrongs don't make a right
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 3 edits | Haven't you heard? In the Republican controlled Corporate States of America, two wrongs DO make a right-especially if the second wrong is being done by the haves against the have nots!!
Feudalism is alive and well in America today! | |
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 |  RayWPremium join:2001-09-01 Layton, UT kudos:1 | Re: Haven't you heard? OT political said by qworster:In the Republican controlled Corporate States of America, two wrongs DO make a right-especially if the second wrong is being done by the haves against the have nots!! Feudalism is alive and well in America today! Senate 49 Dem, 49 Rep, 1 Indie, 1 Indie Dem (?). House 236 Dem, 199 Rep lame duck Pres that most media dislikes, 1 Rep.
It looks like the Democrats essentially control the law making and budget strings side of the US government, and if they were REALLY were against what you claim the Republicans are doing, they could stop it.
(numbers from the The Green Papers) -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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 |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: Haven't you heard? OT political How silly...
Of course, the problem with such a simplistic analysis is that there is no such thing as party discipline in the United States, and neither party is a united front- it only takes a few dissident Democrats leaning conservative on an issue for a Republican initiative to pass.
And you can't dismiss the President as a lame duck- he controls the entire executive branch, and has to approve all laws. | |
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 |  |  |  RayWPremium join:2001-09-01 Layton, UT kudos:1 | Re: Haven't you heard? OT political said by EPS:How silly... Of course, the problem with such a simplistic analysis is that there is no such thing as party discipline in the United States, and neither party is a united front- it only takes a few dissident Democrats leaning conservative on an issue for a Republican initiative to pass. And you can't dismiss the President as a lame duck- he controls the entire executive branch, and has to approve all laws. Oh, sorry, I did not realize people who claim to be Democrats are weaker willed than Republicans and are the only ones easily swayed to the 'dark side'.
President....approves....glad you noticed that. That is all he can do, approve or disapprove, no matter how unrelated 95% of the bill is to the title and initial bill. Again, the Legislative branch has to make it up and send it to him, he can not physically make one up and sign it. And if enough in the legislature do not like him saying no, they can override the veto and it still happens, even with the current legislative mix. -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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 |  |  |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: Haven't you heard? OT political Oh, certainly Republicans cross party lines as well... indeed, there have been several votes where party lines were essentially completely irrelevant. It just puts the lie even more to the neat and tidy "Democrat vs. Republican" image.
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Signing statements, even more off topic from "Republican controlled Corporate States of America" that started this whole thread. I hear a lot of noise over how Bush is using signing statements as a means of limiting controls on the Presidency (some I agree with some I do not, but that is normal). But despite that most of the ones publicized are military and not business related, consider this, what is the function of the third branch, the Judicial? Why has the Legislative branch not invoked that card? Could it be that in most cases the majority of both the major parties agree with the statements because of potential gains to both parties? -- I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
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 | | Messed Up Why is it that if a company spies on another for trade secrets, it is shut down and anyone aware is thrown in jail and fined heavily, but if the MPAA does it, no one will do anything? For one, The Pirate Bay's activities should be legal entirely, and, secondly, if your going to hold others to the rules, you better be playing by them yourself. Definite cause for at *least* a retrial for TorrentSpy, if not a reversal, as others have said. This is horribly wrong and an embarrassment to the already-embarrassing-to-inhabit U.S. of A. Not really proud to be an American at the moment. | |
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 |  |  JehuPremium join:2002-09-13 MA kudos:2 | Re: Messed Up said by fatness:Good point. I'd like to see someone step up and defend that one. So where's the list of who is allowed to break the law and who is not? That would be handy to know. Sure I'll defend it. Like most of the slanted opinions that pass as actual news here, eveyone's skipped over the boring details in favor of the premature conclusion. Anything to make the big, bad MPAA look like crooks, right?
No one even knows whether or not the MPAA broke any laws. That's why there's a lawsuit which will determine the validity of a disgruntled ex-MPAA payrolled "hacker" claims.
The "hacker" admits that he was contracted to provide legally obtainable information, but adds that it was "understood" that illegal stuff would be great too. Did he provide illegally obtained info and pass it off as legal? Dunno.
If he can prove that the MPAA knowingly accepted illegally obtained info, then I'm sure the MPAA will get smacked pretty effing hard, depending on whether or not the alleged illegally obtained infomation influenced the case against torrentspy.
Everyone here is just squealing for the MPAA to get roasted before the facts are even fleshed out in court.
If the MPAA is guilty of these allegations, they will get trashed. We will have to wait and see.
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 |  Rob_Premium join:2008-07-16 Mary Esther, FL | Re: Turnabout Is Fair Play we live in a time where this type of crap will be norm. the MPAA has NO RIGHT to do this.
what if someone hacked into the MPAA's computers and stole their secrets the FBI will be all over it as the FBI is for big major companies who hire them.
anyone who connects to the interent will be guilty. simply because this is the new times were living in. it's all about the dollar. not us.
wake up folks.
maybe, if we stopped watching tv, stopped going to movies and stopped buying cd's this will stop.... but were all zombies now just glued to the media. america..rest in peace.
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I dunno, he's your monkey. And I AM looking for a new pilot...  | |
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Guess they don't do that because any evidence obtained would fall Foul of entrapment laws. Also it would nullify any chance the MPAA would have against things like The Pirate Bay.
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| Re: The DMCA is All Thay Needed said by NoOneButMe:thay didn't need a hacker to do this all thay have to do is use the DMCA and add names via john doe lawsuits but thay abused the DMCA so now there moving on to new laws get ready for new laws soon he who has the money makes the laws in the US its as simple as that It's the Golden Rule of the 21st century. Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.  --
Democracy is 2 wolves and a deer discussing what's for lunch. Liberty is a well armed deer. Ben Franklin | |
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 IridiumPremium join:2003-04-02 Los Angeles, CA | How will the MPAA an american orginization, attempt to takedown The Pirate Bay, based in Sweden? -- My next laptop will be an Apple, I am fed up with PC's and Windows. | |
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