baineschile
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2 edits | CAPs
As one of the few people who actually supports caps on this website, i say, wonderful.
Heavy users need to stop clogging the pipes fore everyone, and pay for what they are actually using.
until we have unfettered internet access, 10gig up and down, with no possibility of network congestion, caps are necessary |
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pnh102
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I really hope there is a customer revolt against Frontier. They seem like a small enough company that losing a sizable number of customers would have the potential to be fatal.
While I personally cannot stand the idea of caps on Internet access, I believe that if they have to be in place, then they should work like cell phone overages in the sense that most customers won't hit the cap. My primary objection is rooted in the fact that caps directly discourage ISPs from making network improvements because it is much cheaper to simply collect overages instead of spend money on upgrades.
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xirian
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Beacon, NY | reply to baineschile
Re: CAPs
even if you support caps, how can you support such a low cap? a 5gb limit on dsl is ridiculous. |
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MisawaGQ
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Mississauga | reply to baineschile
I admit, you made me laugh.
This story is a joke, right? ...Right?
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hottboiinnc
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Re: Dumb
Frontier is not that small. They're actually a nationwide company and in many areas if not all an ILEC. They service the small rural areas. |
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LurkerLito
join:2004-06-08 | Users that ISP need to leave them.
I certainly hope that users just leave them and go to another ISP. 5GB is absolutely unacceptable. Some game demos will already take nearly 2GB. A 5GB cap is like saying your computer is ONLY good for email. My last Steam purchase was 21GB! |
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dcurrey
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Re: CAPs
If they think anything over 5 gig is a bandwidth hog they must be in serious trouble.
Seems they left out voip, streaming video, radio, windows updates/service packs along with all the other software you either download and patch from the internet.
If you going to do caps I would think the minimum would be 250 gigs. Maybe then we can talk about bandwidth hogs but in the age of HD content being delivered via the internet thats not going to be enough either. |
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pnh102
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Re: Dumb
said by hottboiinnc  :Frontier is not that small. Well then I hope many more of their customers bolt. If anything, this would be a teaching moment for other ISPs looking to impose such ridiculously low caps.
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hottboiinnc
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Re: Users that ISP need to leave them.
yah good luck with that. especially if Frontier is your only choice of Internet. They are one of the largest rural ILECs in the nation. What are you going to do if they did it and you were a customer? wine and cry and go back to dial-up and then complain that is is slow? |
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pnh102
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| said by hottboiinnc : What are you going to do if they did it and you were a customer? wine and cry and go back to dial-up and then complain that is is slow? In all honesty, I most likely would do that. For me, there would be no point at all in wasting money on "Internet Service" that I can't even use anyway.
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Boomerang86
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We also have Frontier for POTS/DSL in parts of Orange County, New York (including my town). They JUST started offering 3 MBPS down (up from 1MB) a year ago, and all their recent lousy promotions require a two year contract with a hefty ETF (in one case, it was $400!!).
They have NO FTTH/FTTN plans, and have been losing POTS lines left and right to VOIP and wireless. The exodus picked up BIG TIME when Time Warner rolled out the $89.95 Triple Play back in January, in response to the FiOS rollout in Newburgh; I was one of those.
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elios
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Re: CAPs
wow you DO know one could use that up in one night getting ONE game off STEAM which is totally legal
or how about getting an MMO client
windows SPs?
hell XBL could eat that FAST
and were not even getting in to P2P uses yet
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did some fast math if im right... this ~ just under 7MB A DAY
ARE THEY INSANE might as well use dial up |
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balazone
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At home I go through about 200-300gb per month and of that maybe 1gb is p2p. When you have 4 people using the connection it adds up fast.
Last night I downloaded a few Xbox360 demos and videos totaling about 10gb. Is this unreasonable? That sort of activity is what broadband was made for.
At work we have 22 Comcast accounts and each site uses about 150gb per month (3.3 terabytes total) We would not be able to be in business if we had to stop "clogging the pipes"
5gb is nothing and I feel bad for anyone who will have to suffer with those caps. |
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elios
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Re: Dumb
said by pnh102 :said by hottboiinnc :Frontier is not that small. Well then I hope many more of their customers bolt. If anything, this would be a teaching moment for other ISPs looking to impose such ridiculously low caps. if they service rural areas some people may not be able to
i wonder are there over use charges sounds like what the cells are doing... |
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ddevilduck
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Minneapolis, MN | reply to hottboiinnc
Re: Users that ISP need to leave them.
just got off the phone with Frontier canceled everything I had with them. Its off to netzero for me for a while. |
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pnh102
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Re: Dumb
said by elios :if they service rural areas some people may not be able to Well, I pointed out that if I was subject to this sort of BS, I would probably just cancel any sort of "Internet Service" with them. There's no reason to pay for something I can't use.
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Re: Frontier is just a Fairpoint wannabee
said by Boomerang86 :They have NO FTTH/FTTN plans, and have been losing POTS lines left and right to VOIP and wireless. The exodus picked up BIG TIME when Time Warner rolled out the $89.95 Triple Play back in January, in response to the FiOS rollout in Newburgh; I was one of those. I jumped for exactly that reason. I went to FTTH triple play because they refused to raise their download speeds. What a sorry excuse for a company. 
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I'm nearby (Town of Woodbury) - and in '99 Frontier was the only game in town. Cablevision was dragging its heels. I stayed with Frontier far longer than I should have - but when Cablevision bumped their offering up to 10/1, and Frontier had just gone to 3/1, I left. Within about a year, OOL went to 15/2, and I added BOOST when it became available (30/5).
Now I've got a MagicJack, and am going to drop the 2nd Phone line I had for FAX/DSL - which I'd kept as a 2nd line/FAX option. The net effect is I have 30/5 uncapped (at least for the time being) internet service - at the same price I was paying for a POTS line with 3/1 DSL.
No contest.
With this sort of crap, I may drop my main POTS line and go with Optimum Voice. As much as I can't stand the Dolans, and the thought of giving them more money is revolting, it's less revolting than funding Frontier's stupidity.
Anyone living in a Cablevision serviced area ought to bail from Frontier yesterday, if not sooner.
For that matter, anyone living in a RoadRunner serviced area ought to do the same. |
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elios
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Re: Dumb
said by pnh102 :said by elios :if they service rural areas some people may not be able to Well, I pointed out that if I was subject to this sort of BS, I would probably just cancel any sort of "Internet Service" with them. There's no reason to pay for something I can't use. well i did some math and there insane it comes out to about 6.some MB a day in an avg month
your right i would just go back to dial up its nuts |
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older dog
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Re: Users that ISP need to leave them.
Dial up in many areas serviced by Frontier is $20 or more a month. The cheap dial up providers do not have any local access numbers in this area.
Frontier looks to service areas where there is no competition.
Frontier just recently got a grant from the state to install city wide wireless here.
I believe the only reason they did so was to prevent another carrier from providing competition. |
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