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| par for the course just another part of the war on file stealers.
every part of American society and government must be enlisted to fight infringement, because the media companies are so important for our existence, ya know (even more important than terraism).
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join:2007-01-11 | Re: par for the course said by nasadude:resistance is futile (as long as we are governed by idiots) Garbage in, Garbage out | |
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PwnZone | Re: par for the course maybe now people will start using the »Campus Broadband Chat again | |
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Banks, OR | Re: par for the course I know this post was tongue in cheek, but this legislative result is not surprising. Colleges have knowingly permitted their networkes to be used for wholesale copyright infringement for years, and have refused to do any self-policing. If you don't clean up your own house, and continue to permit illegal activity that a multibillion dollar business says is hurting the bottom line, you're gonna get stomped on by the government. Not only can the entertainment industry afford plenty of lobbyists, it is one of the few industries than contributes a positive export cash flow; i.e., they've got lots of friends in D.C.
Yea, lots of posters here want to do whatever they want online, and rationalize that they're only hurting "greedy" corporations. Well, those corporations send alot of money to D.C., and when was the last time you sent a check to the EFF? | |
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|  BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by nasadude:just another part of the war on file stealers. every part of American society and government must be enlisted to fight infringement, because the media companies are so important for our existence, ya know Obviously the media companies are important to the file sharers' existance since they steal so much of their content to begin with. If media is so unimportant it wouldn't be worth stealing. You don't see people going around in other people's yards taking piles of dog crap do you? Why? Because it isn't worth having, thus it's not worth taking. | |
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Rialto, CA | Re: par for the course The fact that someone steals a thing does mot prove that the thing stolen has actual value. A thief broke into our car one time and the only thing taken was a broken flashlight. I guess that broken flashlight must have had great value, like some of the downloads people acquire. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: par for the course said by rcdailey:The fact that someone steals a thing does mot prove that the thing stolen has actual value. A thief broke into our car one time and the only thing taken was a broken flashlight. I guess that broken flashlight must have had great value, like some of the downloads people acquire. First I was making a point. Second the fact that songs sell at a prcie of 99 cents and movies sell for several dollars prove they have an actual value. | |
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| | | | | | Re: par for the course Actually, songs sell at a fraction of that cost. Try mp3sparks.com, it's less than .05 cents per song. Guess what, the prices they set in the US don't have much meaning on a GLOBAL internet.
And movies? FREE, from netflix. Just save the stream, and you have a movie that you PAID FOR (by subscribing to NexFlix).
Granted, in your world, the megacorps control what you watch, when you watch it, where you watch it, and how much you pay, EVERY TIME you watch it. But the good news is, they don't control the rest of the world. And the REST OF THE WORLD has determined that the prices they charge in the US, well, just aren't worth it.
A pirated work != Lost Sale, much to their dismay.
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Camden, TN | Re: par for the course said by karlmarx:Actually, songs sell at a fraction of that cost. Try mp3sparks.com, it's less than .05 cents per song. Sorry I choose legal stuff.
And movies? FREE, from netflix. Just save the stream, and you have a movie that you PAID FOR (by subscribing to NexFlix). is the netflix subscription free? No. Saving the stream = ILLEGAL.
Granted, in your world, the megacorps control what you watch, when you watch it, where you watch it, and how much you pay, EVERY TIME you watch it. But the good news is, they don't control the rest of the world. And the REST OF THE WORLD has determined that the prices they charge in the US, well, just aren't worth it.
A pirated work != Lost Sale, much to their dismay.
In your world everything is handed to you you don't have to work for everything while everyone works to provide you everythig and not get paid. No such thing as a free lunch buddy. You'll learn that one your join grown up world.
Seriously I think you must be stupid. Let's just say everyone pirated everything. Would new stuff ever get made? If you think so why? What is the motivation to create new movies, Tv shows or music if the artist won't get paid? what just to please you? If your boss said from now you you will work but not get paid, how long would you stay at that job? Not long.
I swear some of these people here must secretly be fans of Karl Marx. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: par for the course said by BF69:Seriously I think you must be stupid. Let's just say everyone pirated everything. Would new stuff ever get made? If you think so why? What is the motivation to create new movies, Tv shows or music if the artist won't get paid? what just to please you? If your boss said from now you you will work but not get paid, how long would you stay at that job? Not long. Let's just say that the amount of crap that gets funding (honestly, how many good movies get made? 5%? How many good cds? 2%?) proves that the industry is too rich still.
I wish that people would stop paying for the crap they produce.
Also, their problem is not people making copies, it's their business model that doesn't work. Great movies still register great sales (record sales even). People will buy the good stuff. It's the bad stuff that gets killed by the copying (since then people can watch it without paying and won't get their greens out for crap). | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | is the netflix subscription free? No. Saving the stream = ILLEGAL.
its not illegal saving the stream is no different then pushing record on a VCR while you have the cable box tuned to HBO while a movie is on, HBO isnt free either but no law states one cant tape it.
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| | | | said by BF69:said by nasadude:just another part of the war on file stealers. every part of American society and government must be enlisted to fight infringement, because the media companies are so important for our existence, ya know Obviously the media companies are important to the file sharers' existance since they steal so much of their content to begin with. If media is so unimportant it wouldn't be worth stealing. You don't see people going around in other people's yards taking piles of dog crap do you? Why? Because it isn't worth having, thus it's not worth taking. It is dog crap. That's why it's not worth paying for. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: par for the course said by stomp357:said by BF69:said by nasadude:just another part of the war on file stealers. every part of American society and government must be enlisted to fight infringement, because the media companies are so important for our existence, ya know Obviously the media companies are important to the file sharers' existance since they steal so much of their content to begin with. If media is so unimportant it wouldn't be worth stealing. You don't see people going around in other people's yards taking piles of dog crap do you? Why? Because it isn't worth having, thus it's not worth taking. It is dog crap. That's why it's not worth paying for. What, the media? If the media is dog crap why do you want it in the first place free or not? That doesn't make sense. If I gave you a plate of actual dog crap, would you eat it if I said it was free? Seems like for you the answer is yes. | |
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| | | said by nasadude:just another part of the war on file stealers. every part of American society and government must be enlisted to fight infringement, because the media companies are so important for our existence, ya know (even more important than terraism). resistance is futile (as long as we are governed by idiots) It's not about media companies being important it's about enforceing laws that are already on the books and have been for years. It's just that before the internet copyright THEFT was not nearly as easy and common. And easy to catch for that matter | |
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Woodside, NY
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| I just hope this doesn't result in higher tuition and fees, I wouldn't mind if the RIAA/MPAA policed my school's network, just as long as they foot the bill for software, and hardware support and maintenance relating to this.
I think if students really wanted to screw with their schools, they could just rescind their Master Promissory Note for their student loans, so the school couldn't get their loan money without a fight. If 17,000 students did that at my school maybe the administration wouldn't be so likely to be copyright cops.
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|  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
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Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | Re: I just hope this doesn't result in because we all know only campus students download files  | |
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| | The possible slippery slope effects still unknown But this paragraph pretty much raises questions as to why the hell they'd even bother:
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Still, a representative from the House Education and Labor Committee said that the law does not require universities to police students, but rather to inform them of their campus policies and the legal implications of downloading and disseminating copyrighted materials. It asks that universities develop a plan for deterring file-sharing, but it does not mandate any specific program.
If this is the extent of it, wonder why the Congress bothered with yet another pointless mandate.
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Mechanicsville, VA | Re: The possible slippery slope effects still unknown Because now that it is in place for them to do this, if they don't or their program doesn't work, it will be easier for the RIAA/MPAA to go after and sue the school. Bigger bucks for them. | |
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| BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Blackened:But this paragraph pretty much raises questions as to why the hell they'd even bother: quote:
Still, a representative from the House Education and Labor Committee said that the law does not require universities to police students, but rather to inform them of their campus policies and the legal implications of downloading and disseminating copyrighted materials. It asks that universities develop a plan for deterring file-sharing, but it does not mandate any specific program.
If this is the extent of it, wonder why the Congress bothered with yet another pointless mandate. Because it's an election year and it make it seem to the lobbists that give huge amouns of money to the politicians that they are doing something. | |
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| | | | another(spare) change as promised by Nobama As usual nancy peloci Bush;s new poodle and the spare change guy short change Americans. Vote against Nobama this fall | |
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Camden, TN | Re: another(spare) change as promised by Nobama said by nutcr0cker:As usual nancy peloci Bush;s new poodle and the spare change guy short change Americans. Vote against Nobama this fall Like McSame is any better. | |
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Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | illegal p2p? Time for VPN to Russia. | |
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Hammond, IN | Higher Education Act ??? "Higher Education Act" REALLY???, wow...
That's like passing a bill that raises taxes on everything and is named "Make America Great" bill | |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Sneakernet.... so colleges will return to sneakernet which cannot be traced. atleast around the campus and thanks to the cost of big HDD it wouldnt be hard to do with removable drives. now this isnt as massive as P2P but hey atleast its untraceable without a Rat.
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Laguna Hills, CA | Pelosi's Politburo strikes again Deal with healthcare? Nah.
Deal with the war? Nah.
Deal with ENERGY! Nah.
Deal with taxation and lost jobs? Nah.
Lick the nuts of the RIAA and MPAA before going on yet another vacation? ABSOLUTELY.
It is any wonder Congress' numbers are at record lows, even lower than the idiot in the White House?
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| | If colleges are responsible for policing copyrights... ....are ISPs going to be held accountable for SPAM bots and phishing scams hosted on their systems?  | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: If colleges are responsible for policing copyrights... nope because the people fighting spam cant Purchase government officals.
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baj475
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Chico, CA | importance of copyright protection? What importance? I fail to see how I benefit in the least from copyright protection.  | |
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| Re: importance of copyright protection? said by baj475:What importance? I fail to see how I benefit in the least from copyright protection. well that's because you are stpud. How old are you? if you are under 18 I'll let it slide. | |
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Glen Allen, VA
1 edit | Different Party, Same Old doodoo... H.R. 4137: College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2008
Sponsor:
Rep. George Miller [D-CA]
Cosponsors:
Rep. Jason Altmire [D-PA]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Yvette Clarke [D-NY]
Rep. Steve Cohen [D-TN]
Rep. Joe Courtney [D-CT]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D-NY]
Rep. Danny Davis [D-IL]
Rep. Susan Davis [D-CA]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D-NY]
Rep. Raul Grijalva [D-AZ]
Rep. Phil Hare [D-IL]
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa [D-TX]
Rep. Mazie Hirono [D-HI]
Rep. Michael Honda [D-CA]
Rep. Dale Kildee [D-MI]
Rep. David Loebsack [D-IA]
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D-MN]
Rep. Grace Napolitano [D-CA]
Rep. Donald Payne [D-NJ]
Rep. John Sarbanes [D-MD]
Rep. Robert Scott [D-VA]
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter [D-NH]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. John Tierney [D-MA]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D-MD]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D-CA]
Rep. David Wu [D-OR]
Rep. John Yarmuth [D-KY]
I still remember when people were claiming left and right (no pun intended) that we HAD to put democrats in congress to bring common sense back into politics.
Like politics and common-sense ever met anywhere. | |
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North Babylon, NY | Re: Different Party, Same Old doodoo... Apparently like any pol, they only give a shit about their bottom line.
*sigh* What a corrupt country we live in.. | |
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Glen Allen, VA
2 edits | Re: Different Party, Same Old doodoo... said by ross:No Republicans voted on this bill? Hmmmm, I smells a rat... Those are just the sponsors and co-sponsors.
Here's the vote tally:
Yes: 45 Dems, 36 Reps, 2 Inds
No: 0 Dems, 8 Reps, 0 Inds
No vote: 4 Dems, 4 Reps, 0 Inds
So there you have it, all but 8 voted for it not counting the 4 democrats and 4 republicans who didn't cast a vote. | |
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| Blame this one on your local library The library is mostly to blame for all this. They have every audio CD known to man that a person can check out for free. Then the audio CD can be encoded on to his or her computer in the MP3 or WMA format. If a person were to check out 50 or more audio CD's a day just think of how many audio files a person would with in a year. OK lets use little poor me for example. I have a;
Internal 250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s
Internal 320GB SATA 3.0Gb/s
External 500GB USB 2.0 60Mb/s
External 500GB USB 2.0 60Mb/s
External 500GB USB 2.0 60Mb/s
External 500GB USB 2.0 60Mb/s
I go to the Kent Library and much as possible and every time I go I check out 100 audio CD's at a time. I encode them on to my computer in the WMA @ 192Kbps but not to worry I don't share them vs a P2P network. Just goes to show you how easy it is to get music on to your computer. | |
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»cyber.law.harvard.edu/node/479
»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···ent.html
More people need to fire back at the industries as well as the government. I for one struck down a policy at my own university which was overly cruel; I encourage others to fight for their rights as students in a restricted country supposedly "free." | |
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