Dodge
Premium
join:2002-11-27
clubs:  | A whole institute huh?
How about just send a memo to Verizon and Comcast and ask how much they want to wire the missing areas? No matter how much they say it will still be less than running an "institute" |
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Jerkface
join:2005-06-05
Washington, NJ | Massachusetts
has now set the bar for america. We need a nat'l broadband strategy. Fios for ALL!
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | repost
i thnink they posted something about this before |
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SierraRob
join:2007-01-10
Prather, CA
 ·Unwired Broadband ..
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Re: A whole institute huh?
Sure, and then Verizon and Comcast will gleefully take the money, and drag their feet, and never actually build out to the underserved areas, and make all sorts of excuses why they can't, and things will stay just as they are.
Public corporations run by Wall Street cannot be counted on to solve this problem. |
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deadzoned
Premium
join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
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| The only way
This will be the only way that this country will be able to truly get broadband to un-served areas of our country.
It will be a tough fight. Massachusetts can expect to get hit with multiple lawsuits and a huge mis-information campaign by Comcast and Verizon hoping to disrupt their plans. |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | Wait for it
Waiting for the obligatory TK / Openbox 9 comment on how this is a Very Bad Thing. |
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viperlmw
Premium
join:2005-01-25
 ·Qwest.net
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Re: A whole institute huh?
said by SierraRob  :Sure, and then Verizon and Comcast will gleefully take the money, and drag their feet, and never actually build out to the underserved areas, and make all sorts of excuses why they can't, and things will stay just as they are. Public corporations run by Wall Street cannot be counted on to solve this problem. I would disagree with your first point. The State of Idaho contracted Qwest and a WISP (I can't remember who) to install Broadband in numerous cities/towns with no service. The deal was, the state picks up the tab for 1/2 the cost, and the carriers were under commercial contract to meet certain milestones/completion at certain time intervals. The WISP was contracted because Verizon would not agree to those terms in their old GTE/ConTel areas. Qwest, however, jumped all over that money, installed new fiber mux's and DSLAMS in numerous areas. Total time, about 18 months from conception to completion. Idaho is now pretty well wired, with every Qwest CO serving DSL. And Idaho is about as rural as it gets. Some DSLAMS were installed in towns no bigger than 500 people. So it can be done with the proper incentives. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
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This new "Broadband Institute" just replaces one Massachusetts already had called the "Wireless and Broadband Development Fund", which accomplished nothing. All they did was up the money set aside for that fund from $25,000,000 to $40,000,00 in the new bill and transfer the money and obligations of the original fund to the new fund.
See here for the details:
»www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/···2796.pdf
the Massachusetts Technology Park Corporation, established pursuant to section 3 of chapter 40J of the General Laws, shall transfer the balance of the Wireless and Broadband Development Fund to the Massachusetts Broadband Incentive Fund. And here is where the government drones hand out the pork to the party faithful:
The institute may provide and pay for such advisory services and technical assistance as may be necessary or desired to carry out its purposes.
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posthaste
join:2001-05-20
Champaign, IL
| Typical
So let me get this straight ... they added $40 million in debt to be used to lobby the federal gov't and beg for money from "private funds"?
Outcome: another new, worthless dept to add to the already bloated State bureaucracy
Winner: the newly-minted, and likely handsomely paid, MBI desk jokeys.
Loser: the people.
Next... |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
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Re: repost
said by Anonymous_ : i thnink they posted something about this before Massachusetts proposed this last August as the Broadband Incentive Fund. It finally got passed by the legislature this year.
»www.iberkshires.com/story/24066/···ced.html
And the BBR story:
»Massachusetts Tackles Broadband Black Holes
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA | wireless
So there are 32 communities in MA where Verizon Wireless broadband cards won't work? |
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CJPC
Premium
join:2001-02-20
Charlestown, MA
clubs:
| Overstated
The irony is (not counting wireless providers) in parts of Boston it is still a monopoly through Comcast. Large parts of the city cant get DSL via verizon, fios is a pipe dream, and the RCN buildout stopped. So, some of us just have one option, even in the city!
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA | and Boston's muni wifi plan fizzled out just like everywhere else. |
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probboy
join:2008-01-10
Natick, MA
1 edit | reply to amarryat
Re: wireless
Yes. Service from all providers is pretty abysmal in Franklin county. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to digitalfreak
Re: Wait for it
said by digitalfreak :Waiting for the obligatory TK / Openbox 9 comment on how this is a Very Bad Thing. nah - they just don't like govt money spent to help consumers (govt money is for wars, big business and rich people that have friends in high places); consumers and the little people must fend for themselves.
it appears this plan doesn't rule out shoveling money to the incumbents ("private sector"), so that's OK; the "private sector" will spread the wealth to the right people and make sure most of the money goes to them. |
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amarryat
Verizon FiOS
join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA | reply to probboy
Re: wireless
So we are going to spend $40 million to give an additional option (besides satellite) to 75,000 people? Nice. |
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neil0311
join:2005-07-24
Marietta, GA
| reply to Dodge
Re: A whole institute huh?
said by Dodge :How about just send a memo to Verizon and Comcast and ask how much they want to wire the missing areas? No matter how much they say it will still be less than running an "institute" That's MA. Nothing worth doing isn't worth spending taxpayer dollars to do, along with as many hacks and relatives of the legislators can be hired.
We didn't get broadband in Leominster until 2003, when the Comcast-ATT Broadband merger went into effect. I agree, wouldn't it be more cost effective to see what the blockers are for the major providers like Comcast, AT&T, and Verizon to provide access, and then provide tax incentives and direct subsidies to allow those providers to connect. Seems much easier than another drain on taxpayers. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to CJPC
Re: Overstated
So, some of us just have one option, even in the city!
[sarcasm]you're obviously a disgruntled, lying consumer since that map shows the Boston area has "three or more competitors"[/sarcasm]
unless you interpret "three or more competitors" to mean "three or more different companies that offer service somewhere in the city, but not necessarily in the same area as another service provider" |
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