niblifar
join:2004-02-12
Ohio | Woah
That is some elite pricing there. The daily caps, not so much.
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DrModem
Premium
join:2006-10-19
USA
1 edit | That $800 T1 Line
Is looking more affordably equal every day. |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | No kidding I would prefer 1.5/1.5 with zero caps then that crap.
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meinmd
@verizon.com | 5meg plan for probably $300 a month...no thanks.
And with that $300 a month you get caps, 1200ms latency, horrible tech support and horrible speeds during peak hours. |
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spewak
R.I.P Dadkins
Premium
join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA | I am waiting
I am waiting for the SuperElitePremiumPlantinum plan myself!
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PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:  | reply to DrModem
Re: That $800 T1 Line
You know there's a problem when the first five posts have people comparing the rates to a T1 line. |
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cooldude9919
join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
clubs:
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said by DrModem  :Is looking more affordably equal every day. T1's can be had for much less (~$400-$500) depending on your loop distance and if the LEC will even install in a residential address. Get a few neighbors to share and it starts to look pretty decent. |
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adams_aj
join:2004-08-31
Smithville, MO
2 edits | reply to meinmd
The on-board switching, has the possiblity of cutting that latency, possibly in half.
Also, a lot of you are saying "no thanks". But do realize, that this is only the next best thing to dialup--which is still a lot of folks' only other alternative.
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Apophis
Jaffa Kree
Premium
join:2001-12-27
Holmen, WI
clubs: | To the Fap Even Faster!!
Wow, congrats on hughes for being retarded, now we can all get to the gey-Fap even faster. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| said by Apophis :Wow, congrats on hughes for being retarded, now we can all get to the gey-Fap even faster. Spoken by someone who must have DSL or cable available to them.
And who talks like a 14-year old.  |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | reply to adams_aj
Re: That $800 T1 Line
Sorry, but I'd go with mobile broadband before this. If that wasn't available, I'd still stick with dial-up. |
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GPSF0L
@cox.net | reply to adams_aj
So what you're saying is, since they have a monopoly for high-speed, they can charge those folks whatever they want and put whatever restrictions they want--- I see. |
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nnaarrnn
join:2004-09-30
Nitro, WV | reply to cooldude9919
Yeah, I can provide a t-1 just about anywhere in the state (WV) for around $300. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
 ·Comcast
 ·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
 ·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Speed schmeed
I tend to agree.
Granted, Spaceway3 may improve latency a bit (those who are on there please report your latencies...I'm guessing they're in the 500-600ms range?) nut sat internet is still sat internet, and at the rate Hughes is going it's like they want to oversubscribe the bird by a disgusting amount, at which point they can FAP you back down to dialup on your $300-a-month plan.
Granted, 5 Mbit from a satellite is nice, but what about the uploads? Also, it looks like the cost per megabit is $60ish all the way up the line, and you don't even get the full speed if you use the connection at all. Heh, in about 13:20 (minutes:seconds) of solid DL on the 5 Mbit plan, you're FAPped. That's disgusting.
As far as T1's go, if you're using sat, chances are your T1 is gonna be expensive, but if you share it around then it should work out, plus it has a 486 GB cap downstream and a 486 GB cap upstream. Yes, I'm talking about the physical limit of a 1.5/1.5 connection. Really puts thins into perspective, that an $800 T1's cost per GB is less than $1, and that's a non-bulk, low-bandwidth dedicated circuit.
HughesNet's sat service, on the other hand, is a joke. How about giving a 1M symmetric Spaceway3 plan for $100 a month, with a rolling 50GB cap per month? That would be reasonable, or at least halway reasonable, doncha think? |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17 | reply to spewak
Re: I am waiting
And after, SuperDiamondElitePremiumPlantinumPro |
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Kord
join:2006-10-27
·RoadRunner Cable
| Upgrade Now
And for a mere $400.00 we can give you a 9700ARP modem with red blinky lights that does jack to help your connection. And don’t forget about another 5 year contract to get it.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to DrModem
Re: That $800 T1 Line
said by DrModem :Is looking more affordably equal every day. If HughesNet is your only option for broadband, the T1 line for $800 is a viable option if you have the extra $500-$600 per month. Not many have that just laying around. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to cooldude9919
said by cooldude9919 :said by DrModem :Is looking more affordably equal every day. T1's can be had for much less (~$400-$500) depending on your loop distance and if the LEC will even install in a residential address. Get a few neighbors to share and it starts to look pretty decent. If Hughesnet is your option for broadband, odds are you aren't going to get a T1 for $400-$500 a month. People that far out in the sticks are going to get rates around $800 if not more. |
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yaw
join:2004-05-19
Morgantown, WV | reply to nnaarrnn
Really? Residental? |
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keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
·Teliax VOIP
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| reply to MysticGogeta
Yep, a T1 line, even in my remote area, is about $480 a month. I would certainly take that T1 line over satellite. Plus, the T1 is not going to cap me, latency will be less than 20 ms, I can get almost as many IPs as I want, there just are way more advantages to the T1.
If you are even considering this high tier package, probably because you are rural, consider a T1. The price is more but advantages are far more. Plus, the speeds will actually seem far better than what you get from satellite. Yes, they say 3 megs (5 megs, sorry) but in reality I doubt you will really appreciate it. The "Feeling" on a T1 line while surfing and then sitting on a satellite connection (even VSAT systems) are completely noticeable.
That is another thing. The heading seems to make everyone think there is just HughesNet or WildBlue for satellite broadband, that is not true. If you want to, you can install a VSAT system, use the BGAN network, there area a lot of options usually only used by businesses or people that really travel to places like the jungle, but it is an option which is forgotten. They do not advertise much because
A. They do not need to, they have plenty of customers.
B. Those systems do not want to overload anything like the residential services do.
But still, in most areas (at least here) it makes no difference where you live, a T1 HAS to be run if you order it, and the ILEC HAS to deliver it, part of the negatives to being an ILEC (the ILEC runs the local loop but order from the carrier like ATT or Sprint, or whatever, but the ILEC has to put in that loop) |
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