telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | First Post
Greed, greed, greed
FiOS, FiOS, FiOS
Monopolies, monopolies, monopolies
Thought I would get that out of the way
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
|  Cable > DSL
That is because - FiOS being the exception - cable in most areas is a much better product than U-Verse or DSL. Factor in bundle pricing, quicker installation times, and the highers speeds that are marketed and it's a pretty easy choice. I only know one person who has DSL and that was because his cable service in Manhattan was awful. |
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Cogdis
join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Teleblend
·ViaTalk
| Wireless bundles
I'm signing up for a Fios bundle with Verizon Wireless because it'll come out to less than I pay Time Warner and I have no need for a home phone with either company. I imagine if the bundle discount was greater (equal to the discount given with home phone service) this package would catch on immediately, but it's enough for me to switch now that Fios is available. |
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DHRacer
Fire Survivor
join:2000-10-10
Lake Arrowhead, CA
·Charter Pipeline
·Verizon west (ex G..
| TV more important
I think the majority of people want to bundle their services and bills around TV, which helps Cable Companies.
Telco, which doesn't have much in the way of TV service to the masses (it's coming but not as widespread as Cable is now), is simply losing because people want TV, and they want bundles, and right now Telcos can't do as well as Cable in this department.
Though I would give the FIOS bundle a try if it came into my neighborhood. I'd even switch my wireless to VZ and go for the quadrulple play...
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texans20
Weapons of Masturbation
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join:2002-09-28
Texas!
clubs:
| That's Business
In the 90s when cable companies were dumping a lot of money into upgrading their network, the telcos did nothing, not a damn thing. Today we are seeing the results and the cable companies are seeing the rewards of their investment last decade.
AT&T still can not look beyond next quarter's earnings, that is why they refuse to begin doing a large scale upgrade to fiber. They are missing out on yet another chance as fiber would allow them to offer video and compete with cable companies. Their inability to look beyond next quarter's cash flow statement will be their downfall. They're proud of U-Verse which is nothing but a bandage.
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Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
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Re: Cable > DSL
said by Matt  :T I only know one person who has DSL and that was because his cable service in Manhattan was awful. I know quite a few here. The local Comcast franchise just plain sucks here. I just helped a friend here setup Dry Loop DSL here. Comcast hooked her up with USB Internet so she couldn't use it on her other computers. After many calls and tech visits Comcase basically told her Tough Luck. "We only promised you one computer connectivity". 
She dumped Comcast cable TV, HSI and is very happy with her new DISH DVR and DSL. She saves ~ $20 a month too.  
Moral... Not all Cable Companies are created equally. Get over it Cable Shills.
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rdmiller
join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA | Qwest??
I haven't seen any specifics about Qwest. They seem to be the telco in the most danger of going out of business. Perhaps some clever hedge fund (you know the one!) could bundle Qwest with Sprint and sell the package to the Koreans. |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to telcolackey
Re: First Post
Pretty much sums it up nicely. |
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FIOS
·Cox VOIP
·ViaTalk
·RoadRunner Cable
·MegaPath
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Time Warner VOIP
2 edits | And the telco response will certainly be...
More dollar-ing to death of customers with endless junk fees.
It seems these pencil pushing corporate dumbasses don't see the obvious coorelation between endless price increases and losing to competitors.
What else should a telco expect when they double the price of intro DSL deals? What else should a telco expect when they charge $7.50 or more for Caller ID alone? What else should a telco expect when they have such bullshit fees like Verizons "you didn't use enough long distance" fee and $1.50 "how dare you not want to be in the phonebook" fee.
Above all else, people shop price. Drop the price, get the customers. It's that simple. You dollar the piss out of them and they'll eventually bail. And a customer, once lost, is very difficult to get back.
And even if they return to the $10-$15 DSL deals, it stops being a deal when the POTS side is $20-$40, laiden with junk fees and overpriced services.
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | reply to Matt
Re: Cable > DSL
I know lots of people with DSL because they don't give a crap about 10Mb service. They are fixated on POTS and would rather have 1.5-3Mb service for 1/2 to 1/3 the price of cable. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to Mactron
WTF? Neither you nor anyone else could power off the equipment and yank the USB and connect CAT5?
Yeah, too hard. 
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Duramax08
Oh rly?
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX | Dang
 crazy. |
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
1 edit | reply to dadkins
Re: Cable > DSL
said by dadkins :Yeah, too hard. Not for me.. Apparently it's to hard for Comcast and their "Techs" !
And why should She have to do it?
Bottom line, Comcast "Techs" are Lazy and/or incompetent and Comcast doesn't give damn about the customer here.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to Dogfather
said by Dogfather :I know lots of people with DSL because they don't give a crap about 10Mb service. They are fixated on POTS and would rather have 1.5-3Mb service for 1/2 to 1/3 the price of cable. I know a few just like that... but I also get to hear about xxxMB taking forever to download too.
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
1 edit | reply to Mactron
If she only had USB I expect this was a very old computer. To say that Comcast sucks because the tech could not figure out how to hook up outdated equipment probably running a very old OS is a bit of a general statement based on a isolated issue.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to Mactron
No offense, but I smell BS.
CAT5 is easier(no driver install needed).
If the tech was truly lazy, CAT5 would have been used.
Why should she have to do it? Comcast will NOT connect, or support, a router.
The USER will have to add it later themself.
Something missing from this story.
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Mactron
el camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
| said by dadkins :Something missing from this story. Full true story.
6 Mo. old Dual Core computer with no issues.
Your Comcast franchise maybe a BMW...
The Comcast franchise here. is a YUGO.
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
·Cox VOIP
·Skype
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southeast
·magicjack.com
| reply to telcolackey
Re: First Post
Hate to say it, but FIOS is started to test investors's nerves. Hey, Verizon, MAKE SOME GOOD COMMERCIALS! They suck! Market it right. Nobody understands that techo-sh@!# so price, price, price. Ivan, get off you butt and fire the marketing staff. Also, fix that mess of a billing system. If you can't make a profit by 2010, hope they shoot holes in your golden parachute.
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL | reply to Dogfather
Re: And the telco response will certainly be...
Add VZ's billing system sucks. |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to Mactron
Re: Cable > DSL
You say lazy.
To connect USB, drivers have to be installed - more work.
To connect CAT5, plug it in - no installation of drivers.
For more than one computer to be used, sub either gets to pay for Home networking and all hw/installation/setup is handled and supported by Comcast
*OR*... user gets to connect their own router - themselves - no installation by Comcast and no support.
Story is full of holes here Mactron.
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