Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
|  Nip it in the bud
All the MSOs - and now the ILECs - are trying to do is protect their television and VoD revenues, while generating a new profit stream like cell phone overages. If they can get an additional $25-$50 for overages, even once, out of a large percentage of their customer base, while simultaneously lowering their actual usage, it's a win-win for them.
If you've had a cell phone overage, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Go over by 100 minutes or so and BAM, your cell phone bill just went up $50. The MSOs and ILECs are viewing that like an excited kid standing in front of the oven waiting for the cookies to come out. They just have to figure out how to sneak one without Grandma knowing. |
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danry25
join:2008-05-21
Seattle, WA | Thats Just Depressing.
Wow, I never thought their traffic would decline!  I mean weren't they the inexpensive tier 1 isp! |
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Defiance82
Computer Elite
Premium
join:2002-09-11
Reeds Spring, MO
clubs: 
 ·Suddenlink
| I had used them back in 2000. Worst ISP ever! Constant network latency issues and worst network I have ever seen. I wouldn't ever think of going back to them.
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ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN | average is 4.5 minutes
I blast that out of the water with watching one legal time shifted tv episode of Martin on youtube. |
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
Premium
join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
|  Cogent blowing smoke because competitors eating their lunch
Cogent began seeing the rate of Internet traffic growth decelerate early this year. In both April and May the company saw 1% sequential traffic growth, far below its historical levels, which, compounded over the past five years, have been around 120%. And the company’s observations coincide with the latest worldwide Internet traffic measurements from the University of Minnesota, which indicate growth continuing at 50% to 60% annually but perhaps at a slightly slower rate. Traffic growth is still high. It is only Cogent that is trailing. It sounds like Cogent's CEO is making excuses for his companies poor performance.
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
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join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs: | reply to ossito16
Re: average is 4.5 minutes
That struck me as odd too. SO folks really are just watching a couple minute-long YouTube videos or getting their rocks off in just a couple minutes of porn? Online video like at NBC, ABC, Hulu, etc. really isn't used all that much?
KM |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to danry25
Re: Thats Just Depressing.
I don't believe they're tier 1. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to KoolMoe
Re: average is 4.5 minutes
said by KoolMoe  :SO folks really are just watching a couple minute-long YouTube videos or getting their rocks off in just a couple minutes of porn? Online video like at NBC, ABC, Hulu, etc. really isn't used all that much? KM The average user's consumption is 4.5 minutes per day. Traditional content distribution is still king.consumers watch Internet video for an average of 4.5 minutes per day and traditional broadcast television for 4.5 hours per day |
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Ignite
Premium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK
clubs:
·BlueYonder Interne..
·Be There
| reply to openbox9
Re: Thats Just Depressing.
said by openbox9 :I don't believe they're tier 1. Believe it or not they certainly are  |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | i blame
i blame the economy. people need to have 2 and 3 jobs to keep afloat. that means, less time porn surfing. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Cogent blowing smoke because competitors eating their lunch
Maybe Cogent should play nicer in their peering agreements. They might see more traffic if they weren't occasionally in peering disputes. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
·BeeCreek Communica..
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to morbo
Re: i blame
Yaknow, Cogent DOES have other big names" on their network, like Blip.tv and Carbonite backup. Also, it looks like their network and such ave gotten better over the years as their pricing has gone down, to the point that you get more than you pay for. Plus, who's going to offer you a symmetric fiber connection direct to the internet, without oversubscription, for a price in the range of residential internet per megabit? Cogent, nobody else. |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | Cogent data vs. Internet data
People should think long and hard before they assume what Cogent is seeing in their business is what the industry is experiencing as a whole
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17
·Comcast
| reply to Defiance82
Re: Thats Just Depressing.
I've had the opposite experience. Latency issues have come about, but because of other, larger transit carriers screwing up Cogent traffic. But Cogent pushed through resolution and amazing customer service. YMMV, and I've only been with them since the beginning of the year. |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17 | reply to Ignite
Technically, they are tier 2. Sales calls it tier 1, but talk to support and they know they are tier 2. |
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SLD
Premium
join:2002-04-17
·Comcast
3 edits | reply to iansltx
Re: i blame
Yep, we're paying $6/Mbit burstable to 1Gig. Try to get that from Level3 LOL. Of course, we are single-homed with them, and do mainly video distribution, but I run a bunch of other websites off the bandwidth and have very few issues. Its easy to overlook the occasional dispute for these prices. And I think of these peering disputes as the market working itself out. If Cogent wasn't pushing, then who would be? |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| reply to openbox9
Re: Thats Just Depressing.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network
So technically they are one of the 14 ISPs that could be considered tier 1, however because of the free peering settlement issues Cogent has had in the past you could argue Tier 2... |
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scooby
Premium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
| reply to Ignite
said by Ignite :said by openbox9 :I don't believe they're tier 1. Believe it or not they certainly are Cogent buys transit which means they are not tier 1.
"A Tier 1 Network is an IP network (typically but not necessarily an Internet Service Provider) which connects to the entire Internet solely via Settlement Free Interconnection, also known as settlement free peering" |
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captain456
@gci.com
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said by Ignite :said by openbox9 :I don't believe they're tier 1. Believe it or not they certainly are You are certainly wrong. By definition they are tier 2. There is no debate. look up the definition of tier 1 and tier 2 then read through Cogents public documents you can find on the internet. It's quite obvious |
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captain456
@gci.com
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said by Jerm :» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_networkSo technically they are one of the 14 ISPs that could be considered tier 1, however because of the free peering settlement issues Cogent has had in the past you could argue Tier 2... No you fail to understand. See my other post. Skip wikipedia and the read the definition of Tier 1 and tier 2 then find Cogents public documents on the net and read them |
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