Matt
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC |  Nothing to see here ...
The iPhone 1G was universally accepted as a great product, however, the 3G is displaying a ton of flaws and just about every review is saying the product isn't worth the upgrade.
Looks like Apple goofed on this one. |
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 |  WOW
It's just a matter of adjusting the firmware pple ! Come on Karl, the horse is dead already, stop beating it.
Adi |
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WALL_E
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USA
2 edits | Pure Speculation
I'm not denying that some users are experiencing connectivity issues, but this article does nothing more than speculate on what the problem could be. For all we know, it could be fixed in a firmware update.
EDIT: I just ran a DSLReports iPhone 3G speedtest, 3 bars, and I get approximately 300 ms average ping time and 1100 Kbps downlink speed.
EDIT 2: Just ran it again, and I got 1247 kbps. 
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | Works fine here
Speedy downloads, decent battery life, and an all around great experience....
ANALysts are seldom right.... |
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WALL_E
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1 edit | said by itguy05  :Speedy downloads, decent battery life, and an all around great experience.... ANALysts are seldom right.... Same here. So far, all claims of an actual hardware defect come from analysts who offer little more than speculation. No one has actually done any testing or hardware tear-down to confirm their baseless remarks.
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The report said the most likely cause of the 3G problems is defective adjustments between the antenna and an amplifier that captures very weak signals from the antenna. This could lead to poor 3G connectivity and slower data speeds. (Yahoo! News)
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If these "defective adjustments" are not firmware-fixable, one would assume it is a physical hardware problem. If that's the case, should a tear-down prove whether this analyst's theory is correct? Furthermore, if this is NOT a physical problem, but rather a result of some software adjustment, would that not then be firmware fixable?
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Rob
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Kendall, FL | Microsoft..
If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different.
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Nightfall
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Re: Works fine here
said by itguy05 :Speedy downloads, decent battery life, and an all around great experience.... ANALysts are seldom right.... I have zero problems with my Iphone as well. However, I cannot deny that a lot of people are having problems. So who is right here? Its my hope that apple does the right thing and really investigates the issue. |
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KSUJace
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Chicago, IL
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| Anyone who owns an iPhone 3G knows there is a problem...
It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a chip expert to know there is an issue with the iPhone 3G. When you can sit next to another 3G AT&T handset owner who is getting perfect 3G signal strength and your iPhone is on the EDGE network, there is obviously some issues going on.
I think one of the battery life issues is because of all the searching the unit is doing for signal. I go in and out of service, switch between EDGE and 3G multiple times a day.
I'm also un-impressed with the amount of dropped calls I've experienced.
... wishing I just kept the 1st generation iPhone |
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detfan
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Livonia, MI | reply to Rob
Re: Microsoft..
Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. |
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WALL_E
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| reply to Rob
said by Rob :If this had been a Microsoft product, the comments posted thus far would have been oh so much different. I would argue that if it was a Microsoft product, the article probably would not have existed or the headline would be much less speculation-based. Apple products have problems (as do all products), but somehow front-page articles such as this, which merely repeat what was already said in an article a few days earlier, seem to get accepted simply because they're about Apple.
I'll be the first person to criticize Apple products for their flaws, but you have to question the motivation for popping repetitive articles about software/hardware glitches to the front page just because it's Apple.
The ONLY reason this article is here is to stir the pot and get people worked up - not the be informative or helpful.
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WALL_E
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said by detfan :Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. That is VERY annoying. Hopefully Apple gets a firmware update out the door quickly to fix this issue. It makes text messaging very difficult. I've also experienced some lag in the contacts application.
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
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It's not rocket science.
Apple and AT&T should easily be able to figure out the problem. I'm thinking they already know (even though they may say there is none or they're "working on it").
But if there is a problem, they'll want to point it to firmware/software. That's the cheapest fix. Apple shareholders would be up in arms if Apple came out and said it was a hardware problem which they're going to replace one-million+ iPhones. Something like that is only supposed to happen to Windows PCs, not an Apple product. |
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detfan
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Re: Microsoft..
said by WALL_E :said by detfan :Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. That is VERY annoying. Hopefully Apple gets a firmware update out the door quickly to fix this issue. It makes text messaging very difficult. I've also experienced some lag in the contacts application. Yea well this latest update was supposed to have solved that. It has not. |
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WALL_E
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| said by detfan :said by WALL_E :said by detfan :Only problem I have with this phone is the laggy keyboard, but its random..Hope that gets fixed. That is VERY annoying. Hopefully Apple gets a firmware update out the door quickly to fix this issue. It makes text messaging very difficult. I've also experienced some lag in the contacts application. Yea well this latest update was supposed to have solved that. It has not. Yep. I also installed 2.0.1 and noticed little improvement at all - I'm not sure what that update accomplished.
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lkvilla
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Just wanted to add a quick comment. For the record my family owns the older iPhone and loves it. However, I work for a telecom vendor (we don't manufacture handsets) and one of my customers is complaining that remotely checking their work voicemail does not work at all with their iPhone 3G. I tried the same test with my older model iPhone and had no problems at all. Clearly, its not speculation about problems, there are problems. I certainly hope Apple works them out as from a design standpoint, it blows the doors off the competition. Apple has Design down to an art. I just wish they were better partners to the carriers. A little humility, Apple, would go a long way. |
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Silvanos
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Re: Anyone who owns an iPhone 3G knows there is a problem...
I've never seen my phone go to the edge network, I've turned off wi-fi because the 3g works so well.
I've had 0 dropped calls, my browser has dropped a couple times but never a call.
It's not a flawless phone but I've been very happy with mine.
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Mr Matt
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|  I Phone, like an Apple that has passed through a Horse.
 Looks like the Apple/AT+T mob is posturing to do nothing about the problem. The easiest solution is to claim that the malfunction is normal. Cingular/Motorola did nothing about a hardware problem with an early Motorola Razor model, you know when they cost around $200.00 with a Two Year Contract, even though they were aware of a problem. A local Cingular Authorized Dealer that I did business with was caught between his customers and Cingular/Motorola with no offer to replace defective handsets. The C/M Mob sent the dealer a letter that claimed the problem would only occur under very specific circumstances and the majority of users would never experience the problem. Luckily I was not affected because I used Sprint. If there is a problem with the I Phone 3G Apple should replace them. |
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ptrowski
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Re: Anyone who owns an iPhone 3G knows there is a problem...
I think the 3G network also has issues at times. I am currently running the iPhone speed test and the latency probes right now are through the roof! They are spiking at 7445 MS, 2566MS, amd 9344ms.
So the network itself can be borked. Currently at 47kbps. |
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jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ | Paid to be beta testers
When you're the first to buy a high tech product which hasn't been tested under every conceivable circumstance, you're a beta tester.
And, you paid for the privilege. |
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Matt
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Product zealotry is so funny to me.
It's just a damn phone that has problems that are well documented by every major news/tech site. Yet the minute the product is held up as anything but the pinnacle of all technology with a chorus of angels singing in the background, the product owners attack like rabid dogs.
Are you trying to justify your purchase? Are you angry because you spent so much money to be cool and now people are starting to find flaws and say, "Hey wait, this isn't that cool!"
If anything, you should scream the LOUDEST to get Apple or AT&T to fix it.
Additionally, if you think the financial analysts don't know what they are talking about, you need your head examined. They are in charge of millions to billions of dollars and are paid very well to manage it. If their job was so easy, everyone would do it because, contrary to popular belief, there is a ton of money in making money for other people. Just Google how much the Top 10 Hedge Fund manager made last year. It probably starts close to a billion per year. |
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