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Comments on news posted 2008-08-14 11:14:30: Prompted by the NebuAD fiasco, the House Committee on Energy and Commerce recently began investigating how numerous ISPs and content operators treat user privacy (a hint: poorly). ..

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jarthur31

join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM

reply to BF69

Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers

BS! The Internet was supposed to be an information resource not a giant flea market.

If you can't provide a website free, then by all means don't do it. And don't piss off the viewing public by loading crapware.

Rob_
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL

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reply to en102
please note: the free firefox blockers do NOT block flash ads. I've tested it several times and still see them

ad muncher works great.
it's a small price to pay for keeping sanity on your computer.

-Rob
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»www.cband.info come join our IRC chat room and meet some new friends and listen to some good radio. We don't bite unless it's a piece of steak!



Dryv1yne

@prkcorp.com

reply to jarthur31

said by jarthur31:

BS! The Internet was supposed to be an information resource not a giant flea market.
Key phrase there "supposed to be"... until commercialization raped and pillaged it.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Matt
I get info from VONS/Raplhs/Sams Club/CostCo, etc.
Beyond the 'conspiracy theory' part, the data may not all be used at directing junk to you.

I have seen the typical credit card/refinance, etc marketing directed at me, including listing the cost I paid for my house.

Typically, club card data mining is used within to find out demographics, who buys what, and more general trend analysis. Bean counters pay good for this kind of info.
--
Canada = Hollywood North


EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

reply to NOCMan

Re: The Lawsuits will Fly once

Indeed... and even ignoring the legal consequences, that doesn't do anything for the porn advertisers. How are ad targeters supposed to compensate for multiple users? Indeed, a "targeted" ad could be worse than a standard ad if mis-targeted.


Nick_L
Premium
join:2003-01-22
Pittsburgh, PA

reply to cdru

Re: If you don't allow ATT to sell your browsing data...

Just an FYI, in case you weren't be facetious: the term kid gloves does not refer to the gloves of a kid but, rather, gloves made of kid (goat) leather. They were expensive and thus reserved for the rich/refined. Therefore to "treat something with kid gloves" is to treat it well.

Just thought you might want to know.
Nick


cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5

I always thought they were made from kids though...not goats. Learn something new every day.

I was being facetious.


Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to en102

Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers

said by en102:

I get info from VONS/Raplhs/Sams Club/CostCo, etc.
Beyond the 'conspiracy theory' part, the data may not all be used at directing junk to you.

I have seen the typical credit card/refinance, etc marketing directed at me, including listing the cost I paid for my house.

Typically, club card data mining is used within to find out demographics, who buys what, and more general trend analysis. Bean counters pay good for this kind of info.
club card mining is how you get pepsi coupons from that printer when you always buy coke. what i learned though from working in retail food is atleast on that front you are just a number.
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports


pog
Premium
join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI
Reviews:
·Hawaiian Telcom

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

So I should spend money on bandwidth and hosting and other thigns just so you can surf for free? See the whole point is that if you are going to COST me money I don't want yo on my site in the first place. ...
Just because you invest time or money in something doesn't automatically make it worth anything to anyone else.

Besides... hosting is so cheap these days, I have to wonder exactly what you're serving that you are worried about any of this. I mean, I pay roughly $6/month for up to 100GB of bandwidth, 10GB of space... and this is not a very liberal host by some standards!
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My Site


i1me2ao
Premium
join:2001-03-03
TEXAS

porn and politics

is all i have besides posting here. what better porn and improved representation..
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»www.thereligionofpeace.com/

rmdir

join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL

reply to Rob_

Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers

NoScript does.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service

Spying for profit....

Kinda reminds me of this... in a way....

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKYG6KTK-M

Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
kudos:1

reply to Kearnstd

Re: doesnt lower my ping!

It may or may not increase your ping times, but I very much doubt it will lower them any.

Airwolf7
Premium
join:2004-12-12
Franklin, KY
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast

reply to en102

Re: The only online benefit of selling this data

How about I just pay them $2.00 more a month and they just leave my Internet connection the Hell alone?

They can earn more money the old fashion way. They can charge more.

It's not like the have any positive talking points when compared to their competitors in my area except for two things.

1. They know how to install and maintain outside plant.

2. Stability/Reliability


asdfdfdfdfdfdf

@Level3.net

reply to fatmanskinny

Re: What's new???

That isn't a reason to open the doors and allow anything to go.

Their behavior is becoming much more intrusive and the level of monitoring and the extent to which online behavior is tied to personally identifiable information is going to grow worse. Concentration of power in the isp market will only make this problem worse as well.
There have to be boundaries set and norms need to be established for acceptable isp behavior or there will be no end to it.

bjbrock

join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK

As long as it is truly opt-in...

»www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/···eb-users

As long as the surfer must opt-in before DPI takes place, I'm not going to complain. It's not good enough that ads are not served without opt-in, data mining must also not take place without opt-in. This is the only way that the service would truly be at the user's discretion.

Some users may actually want targeted advertising. They should have it then. But users that don't want it should be totally shielded from all of it.


FastiBook

join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA

Crap.

I have enough spam from people sharing/selling my info. Idiots.

- Andy
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LETS GO METS!


semotus
Premium
join:2003-08-28
00000
Reviews:
·ooma

reply to en102

Re: Stop ads by using ad blockers

Since the subject came up....
I was surprised to learn that data collected from set top boxes about customer viewing habits are being matched up to what you buy at the store when using these membership cards.

»www.npr.org/templates/story/stor···92442904

Its been shown over and over and over that these cards save the consumer absolutely nothing. Yet people continue to use them anyway, go figure.

I couldn't find the article right off hand but, there was an article some time ago about how insurance companies were one of the best customers of shopper data collected with these cards. Buying cigs? Beer? Fatty foods? You may be a financial risk to their bottom line.


Thug21
Just Chillin'
Premium
join:2005-08-21
kudos:1

reply to FastiBook

Re: Crap.

So, who is the best person at ATT to direct some major complaints to in regards to this?

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